Although I do not agree with what he did, I too think that the punishment is excessive. Maybe it’s just because we have people like R. Kelly still doing tours and making CDs. I guess America values animals over people. NO PEOPLE VALUE DOGS OVER BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF>>>>IF THEY HAD BEEN WHITE GIRLS KELLS WOULD BE IN JAIL SON.

Man VICK COMING BACK TO THE LEAGUE BUT HE NOT GOING BACK TO THE FALCONS THAT NIGGA GOING TO Da DOLPHINS BECAUSE THEY GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST SALARY CAP COMES TO NEXT YEAR SEASON

In 2005 Vick settled for an undisclosed amount for giving a woman herpes. I believe I read that in SmokingGun awhile back. Poor Dogs!

I've read through the posts and cannot help but wonder why anyone would really feel sorry for Vick and his circumstance. First and foremost, as a wealthy NFL player he should have known better than to think he could live a "normal life." He chose to associate himself with people who continuously engaged in criminal activities. I understand that it is hard to disassociate one's self sometimes from childhood friends, but the truth of the matter is that it's lonely at the top, and the top is not made for everybody. We live in a capitalist society where the majority of the wealth, power and success is obtained by a minority of the population. That is just the way it is. So, in my opinion, Vick should have thought long and hard about the company he chose to keep and realized that the most important lesson in life, which is there is no honor among thieves. Furthermore, when it comes to coping a plea and serving less jail time, I truly believe only a LIMITED FEW would actually accept a longer sentence in lieu of snitching. Anyway, because Vick admitted to financing the dog fighting operation, I find it extremely hard to believe that he did not know what was going on in his own home at some point or another. He acknowledged being a willing participant in the execution of several dogs on his property. All the evidence is against him. With that said, how can we really say that he did not deserve the sentence he received? If he committed perjury and lied during trial, did he really and truly believe that he was so "above the law" that he would get a pass? I mean I know it is not completely off the mark to think this way given the results in the OJ trial, etc., but you see how the government is gunning for Barry Bonds and anyone else who allegedly lied about their steroid use. It seems like the whole world is cracking down on so-called celebrity "role models." Case in point: The judge in this case told Vick he should apologize to the millions of people who view him as a role model. Really? I don't think so. A human being is incapable of being a real role model as they are just as susceptible to sin and committing sin as the rest of us. Celebrities are human. Period. They each have their own story of how they acquired fame, and while I am not saying there is anything wrong in learning about their story especially if it mirrors your own, the truth is that they should not be glorified and idolized to the point where when they do something wrong it's deemed unforgiveable. The funny thing is maybe if this happened back in the day when Diddy was going back and forth to court, along with Foxy Brown and other celebs whom the justice system gave a slap on the wrist for commiting real offenses, Vick would have stood a better chance of getting off. However, if you notice the law is not playing when it comes to celebrities. Paris Hilton was escorted back to jail to serve her full sentence; Foxy Brown is serving a year in Rikers after given several chances to get herself together; Marion Jones and all the other alleged steroid users are on trial and/or awaiting sentencing; some other celebrity is in jail now serving 48 days for a DUI; Britney lost her kids, etc. The list goes on and on. Anyway, I cannot remember who it was that was making the point of this all being part of "the Man's" plan to keep us down, but in any case the writing is on the wall that despite the many advancements we as black people have made, the struggle still continues. It took more than two decades for the Supreme Court to declare the sentencing guidelines for crack and powder cocaine as excessive and unjust, but look how many of our men have served time and destroyed their lives and the lives of their families in the process? And what does this decision really mean if it's (a) not applied retroactively, and (b) our system remains broken and does not provide our youth with a decent education to ensure they don't end up in jail and/or prison like so many before them? The point is that Michael Vick's case, while disturbing no so much for the crime committed but the shear waste of talent and a human life, it should serve as both a warning and a wake-up call for black America and the world at-large. As you climb the ladder of success, you cannot continue to do the things that you used to do when you were just you. To whom much is given much is expected; and while yes, celebrities are mere human beings and should be seen as such, the public places an extremely burdensome and unfair amount of expectation on them to be more than human. Vick is a reminder to us that celebrities are human. He is a reminder to us that no matter how much power, wealth and fame a person has they can lose it ALL tomorrow, which is why humility is key at all times no matter how successful you become. Instead of feeling bad for Vick and criticizing what is already done, the question is what is he going to do when he gets out? What factors are in place and need to be in place to ensure that a man who may lose it all due to a bad decision does not continue to lose it all by making more bad decisions when he is released from prison? The recidivism rate in this country is so high because there are no real alternatives and deterents to crime when people are released. So they go back to what they know.

FIRST!!! Oh, and don't worry about Vick, he'll be back on the field. Just look at Ricky Williams....er...wait a minute.

FIRST!

MR. SEXY VICK WILL BE BACK IN 2 YEARS.... ON THE FIELD...AND OFF....!! HE HE

Wow…Vick got sentenced to damn near two years fed time! I know some people will hate me for this but I think that sentence is a little excessive. I’m not an animal hater and I am all for “animal rights” or whatever but I think two years FEDERAL time (that means day for day…no good time or two-for-ones) and three years probation (click the link) is a little excessive for having dogs fight. We all love our dogs but, damn, how many dogs were killed? I don’t know all the details of his case but Vick has lost a lot...I’ll be praying for him.

"WP are not playing about “man’s best friend,” Vick would have been better off killing black people." That is the saddest part about it. Hopefully WE, the ones that are reading and discussing this topic, will take this as a opportunity to teach our sons better.

One has to wonder what kind of time other dog fighters have received. Making an example of Mr. Vick I'm sure hasn't done anything to stop the dog fighting. PETA is not on their job b/c in that state and other parts of this country dog fighting is accepted but I don't see them going down South throwing paint on anyone. Hopefully, down time will pass quickly for Mr. Felony and he can get on w/his life.

starbaby I thought it was a bit much as well...

good for him hes a damn fool anyway for involving himself in something so cruel .. he shouldve been thanking god for the fact that he was drafted into the NFl in the first place, he was making millions of dollars and shouldve appreciated it.. now hes having money trouble because his team owner now wants back the 20 million bonus they gave him and hes lost of all of his endorsements and his mothers house is on the line as well hes a damn fool for doing this to his mother.. he had enough money to live comfortable for the rest of his life and wouldve been able to take real good care of his mother as well, but black men are under in the impression that there equal to white men in todays society and there not!!!!!!! white men can do whatever they want and will never suffer the backlash of the public, but once black men do something your going to have hell to pay!!!!!!! 2 years behind bars for something so stupid as dog fighting!!!!! all of the broke bums who he thought was his friends he had in his house are the ones who told on his dumb ass, why the hell would they be happy for him having what he has while there broke as hell .. majority of the people from your neighborhood arent happy for you when you make it out and doing something positive with your life they wait for you to fall flat on your face and ass then there happy about it... now everybody in the hood is going to laughing there butts off at the fact that he will now be living right the hell back in the ghetto with all of them.. he came from nothing, he was dirt poor and that shouldve never left his mind- its called being HUMBLE!!!!!!!

*sigh*

Why does it always have to be about race. Somethimes I think some blk ppl use their skin colo as an excuse. We want to be treated as equals one min and the next min we want to be cut some slack. We don't want white ppl using the N word but its ok for rappers, ppl who are in the limelight, to throw it around in their music. The same music that white kids listen to. We have to start respecting ourselves and stop giving white ppl a reason to think what they think. What Mike did was wrong and he should go to jail. He is lucky he got 23 mo at least its not 5 yrs. Man I wonder what i feels like to have it all one min and then have nothing the next min?

DAMN THEY COULDN'T HOOK DUDE UP WITH A FADE BEFORE SENTENCING?!?!?!

[quote comment="18158"]i'm clearly out numbered here but i think he should have gotten more time... like the five years that he was facing and so should the others that are involved. only a sick person has cages on his property exclusively made for raping female dogs![/quote] WHO WAS PHUCKING THE DOGS?!?!? UMMM WHAT THE HELL IS YOU (YES I SAID IS YOU) TALKING ABOUT? IT'S A DOG...AND I HAVE HAD 5 DOGS AND 4 CATS IN MY LIFE, SO I LOVE ANIMALS BUT HIS SENTENCE IS RIDICULOUS.. SOMEBODY PLEASE PLEASE CLARIFY THAT NO DOGS WERE GETTING BONED BY HUMANS AT VICK'S PROPERTY....LMAO GIRL THE WAY YOU MAKE IT SOUND IS LIKE SOME BEASTILALITY (SP?) STUFF...LOL

I think this is strictly an 'example' making sentence. I mean, yeah, he should've know better but there are players out there who have KILLED PEOPLE while driving drunk and haven't lost near as much as he did. I don't think this is the end of his career. If nobody picks him up after he serves his sentence, they are absolutely stupid. Obviously, ATL Falcons need him real bad....keep ya head up Mike and leave them damn dogs alone! Next time just run one over with ya car or go hunting like a previous poster said and put a deer head on ya wall and keep it moving.

[quote comment="18232"][quote comment="18158"]i'm clearly out numbered here but i think he should have gotten more time... like the five years that he was facing and so should the others that are involved. only a sick person has cages on his property exclusively made for raping female dogs![/quote] WHO WAS PHUCKING THE DOGS?!?!? UMMM WHAT THE HELL IS YOU (YES I SAID IS YOU) TALKING ABOUT? IT'S A DOG...AND I HAVE HAD 5 DOGS AND 4 CATS IN MY LIFE, SO I LOVE ANIMALS BUT HIS SENTENCE IS RIDICULOUS.. SOMEBODY PLEASE PLEASE CLARIFY THAT NO DOGS WERE GETTING BONED BY HUMANS AT VICK'S PROPERTY....LMAO GIRL THE WAY YOU MAKE IT SOUND IS LIKE SOME BEASTILALITY (SP?) STUFF...LOL i know who you're talking to...i know who wrote the sentence lmfao...he did have cages where dogs were made to have sex with other dogs...females dogs were being raped, besides being slammed to the ground for no reason to kill them he also made them to fight to the death...also i don't believe i mentioned that he also starved some of his dogs to death. that's cruelty to the fullest...a human with love in their heart doesn't do crazy things like that imo. he needs a lot of help imo. i'm also not condoning that any animal should be treated any better than any human - it's my belief personally that if you kill another person you should automatically get life...but's that is just my opinion again. i have a deep respect for all life not just humans but for animals as well...people have their opinions on this site and i have mine.

I don't think it's excessive. More like not enough! R. needs his tale locked up also, but that lil gal had a choice. She could've said "no". Those poor dogs weren't afforded that same choice.

[quote comment="18208"]i think should've got more time, they was hanging dogs, and electrocuting them and shit. the way ya'll talking about dogs lives are not worth more than human lives is the same way those white folk would talk about us negros. shit is sad...[/quote] What about those that deer hunt? What do you think they do to the chicken's, turkey's, pig's, etc.? If it's wrong, it's wrong. If it's ok, it's ok.

OK....I am so not urban....damn suburbs....but I just read Starbaby's comments and ummmmmm he don't get not time off for good behavior when you go to federal prison? I guess I ain't watching enough crime shows cause that is excessive...I love animals, but damn, there are people out here like R. Kelly whose case ain't even seen the light of date in a court room in years and he is a damn peophile...I think folks are going a little crazy with this PETA shyt....Look at Ellen Degayneres (yes I spelled it like that) crying and shit because her stupid ass didn't read her contract...I was glad they took the damn dog. But folks need to chill the hell out, everybody is EXTRA sensitive they need someone to smack them in the face and yell "SNAP OUTTA IT!"

[quote comment="18245"]I don't think it's excessive. More like not enough! R. needs his tale locked up also, but that lil gal had a choice. She could've said "no". Those poor dogs weren't afforded that same choice.[/quote] ;-)

Michael Vick and his legal team are idiots. I plan to attend law school but this is stupid. White people love a public apology. Where was his? Secondly, donate to the damn ATL humane society. Thirdly, appear at a dog park and sign some damn autographs or something. All of this could have been better if the legal team played their cards right. PS, VIck you were on top of the world...now you gonna be under Roscoe in cell block 48.

Trust

We all know that Omarion's boyfriend went to the hospital because that they played too rough on the tour bus.. shame on those lying ass PR folks.