[quote comment="21496"]I'm so tired of hearing the phrase that "someone took away someone's manhood" that statement makes no sense WHATSOEVER!! Your manhood is not identified by what's in your pants. Please get that false mentality out of your heads people. Honesty, Character,& Responsibility that's what makes a man. So if these accusations are true those harmed will never be stripped of their "manhood" as long as they possess true Integrity.[/quote] I agree. It's like saying that a mom is not a mom because her kid(s)died. Still sad if this is true though. Merry Christmas everyone.

HAVING A LOT OF MONEY DON'T MEANS THAT YOU CAN BUY THE WORLD OR A YOUNG KIDS ASS ,DON'T FORGET THAT SOM'BODY CAN HIT UR YOUNG BOY 2. iF YOU DON'T DO IT YOURSELF .

And we're "shocked and surprised" that folks get molested in the black community? Gimme a break y'all. We can cut all the fake stuff...cuz it's happening in your own family....we ignore that but focus on the "celebrities"...uh ok. Where are the parents?? Oh...that's the thing...there are no more parents just fathers and mothers that want to be "friends" with their kids and not parents. They all need prayer...and oh, Merry Christmas.

@ Gman That's real talk.

I think that it's true cuz a black man won't make up being raped by another man JUST to promote a reality show cuz that he'll think that'll compromise his own manhood. Unless Raz-B and his brother really want publicity and are completely messed up in the head to spread a false rumor like that. And if it's false, chris stokes and marques houston can sue the shit out of them for defamation of character and other stuff too. Everything points to the fact that it's real and I couldn't believe it cuz I loved b2k, I love marques houston, I've seen chris stokes on television and in pictures. And just wow, the shit is gonna real hit the fan in '08. God bless. Merry Christmas.

What is Jay-Z abdicating? I guess after the commercial flop of that album he had to go....

I agree with you about parents being friends..And with these young celebrities coming up they are quick to be "managers". Do you think Beyonce's parents care that she went from "conservitive-sexy" to staight shaking her ass..B has to bankroll that whole family..Who else has talent?? I belive those B2K boys sold their sole to the devil and their parents are to blame for being greedy..People dont think its the minors but look closely @ these older adult men to..If "Puffy" decides to take on another male artist and then "dismisses" them someone should call the copss..Its easy for him to hide behind weak chicks (not women) who want his money. Kim Porter/her claim to fame////oh baby momma and perm box girl..Oh excuse me MODEL.lol Cassie..mmmmmmmmmm.Need I say more..Kim and Foxy---boring.Misa,Mary and Faith were the smart ones.All his male artists were hot until the have a "DISAGREEMENT".It cant always be about money.. Merry Xmas p.s Send your child to college,not into the arms of the Entertinment industry.

Yeah, I think it is very true...I don't think that Raz B or his brother would lie about a situation like this just to get fame.... Chris Stokes needs to step up and be real and tell the truth that he really did it. I hope and pray that the boys are physically, mentally, and emotionally ok. I also hope that MH steps up and says something too but for himself not to protect chris Stokes

I am convinced that most of this is true... The reality of this is it's only being presented in a very general way... I am sure the details are scarier. The boys of immature were probably first grade age when they started making music. It's sick to think of what has been going on all this while. In the conversation that Raz B has with Chris (It's not specific what Chris is alluding to), Chris says something about all that being in his past... and he is different person now... blah blah blah. If he is alluding to the molestation then he must be damn crazy to think it's all good now since he has changed. So this is what people with money get away with. You molest boys, make them perform oral favors on you and your friends, rape them and they move on with your life, get married and have 4 children and all of a sudden the sun should shine brightly on you forever. Karma is going to hit you and bad too. Someone on another forum mentioned that Chris himself probably went through the same thing when he was younger and trying to make it. So maybe he did but that doesn't make it right. He did it to Marques and Marques did it to Raz B... Omarion and the rest that are not saying anything I really worry about. They need to deal with their demons. They'll either turn into a Chris Stokes in the future or take it to the their graves and one day it'll eat them up and they'll snap and shoot someone. On a side note, Raz B seems the more sensible one in his family. You can even see the hurt in his eyes. He doesn't seem to want anything. His STUPID ass brother on the other hand seems like he'll perform some more favors for money. IDIOT! You just found out two weeks ago your brother was molested and half the conversation with Chris is about his mom being excorted out of the party, his ego being bruised, him not wanting anything, him just wanting Chris to be family... let's do lunch, I'll pay.... cursing cursing cursing. He needs to grow up! He still doesn't get it! God help us all. Most importantly, may God allow justice prevail! Black people let's protect our children, and if we can't, let's not have them in the first place. PLEASE. It's not rocket science damn it!

can a sista get a few days to travel and go shopping for her fam...you know it is christmas.

I didn't watch the youtubes circulating about this b/c I'm not surprised by this news. I always knew something was a little throwed off with that whole camp, and not based on outer appearance (open shirts and bird chests, over processed hair, relaxers,etc...) b/c Prince and Ginuwine (in his prime) are the ONLY brothas who could do that and still come off as straight and sexy to me. What really had me wondering about them was how they seemed to share the same "girlfriends" or "female acquaintances. Who people REALLY need to be asking questions to are Jennifer Freeman (Marques Houston's "fiancee" and Omarion's supposed ex-girlfriend), Meagan Goode(cuz she's been in several films with them), and Alexis Fields (she was on Sister Sister with Marques a few films and in old music videos). I'm not accusing or saying those ladies know anything but Jennifer Freeman gotta know SOMETHING? I mean don't you find that a little if not VERY strange that alleged "brothers" have the same g/f? It's weird enough in the Jackson family. I feel bad for those young men and hope the truth comes out. I really don't think two brothas would just make some stuff up like that and put it on YouTube of all places for publicity.

MiamiMiami, I agree with you. Only those that have experienced it have a right to say how it makes them feel. If it makes them feel rubbed of their manhood then that's what it does. Now of course we hope that with time they will heal and know that there is so much more to them than that and that they are still complete and wholesome men in the eyes of God. It's a process we pray we never have to go through.

this is crazy, and I hope for those men not true. If it is I pray they find peace and Chirs find some truth and ask for forgiveness from the people he victimized. I wonder how many of the women in the industry are abused, how prevalent this is everyday. I don't have children but I know it is the right of every child to grow up and feel safe. Safe and loved. Peace by brothas, peace and be still to see the light to move into.

that whole b2k thing is clearly fabrication for a number of reasons I am just too tired to get into. I really hope Chris Stokes sues the hell out of them....

Since all this has come out--via the YouTube video--I have been on the internet reading various blogs. Apparently, this is indeed not the first time these molestation accusations have surfaced. Several folks have posted personal comments regarding events that took place at TUG. They also offer much insight as to how Chris Stokes has come to acquire management of these young men. It is rather unfortunate that we value money over the well-being of our youth. I will not say anything bad about their parents because I don't know them; however, they should have been on guard when allowing their children to interact with Stokes and others at TUG. Look at those pictures (and there are more) of them in their boxers in a bed. Who in the heck is snapping the photos? A mess! Also, their are several reports that members of IMX, B2K, and Stokes have matching tatoos of each others' names in Chinesse. I, personally, haven't looked at these young men that closely to confirm its validity. Whether that is true or not...it sounds not so good. If indeed Stokes is doing (or have been doing) these things, he should stopped and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

LMAO... At The Etire Situation.. Fr The Life Of Me I ould Never Figure OUT... WHO Chris Stokes WAS.. He'd Always Be Preset During The Flming Of Videos.. But NEVER Semmed To Do Anything..! I Think It's TRUE.. But The Statue Of Limtaions Has Surely Expired.. You Don't Go & Put A Video On A WebSite..When You're Mad About Something! But I Don't Doubt That The SPONTANEOUS Emgergence Of This CLAIM Was Due To Chris Stokes' Claim That He Was Only Doing It Because He Refuses To Support Him Any More... My Favorite Part Was Him Saying His ASS Hurt !! ps.. "Go Jay-Z Do You !!"

[quote comment="21683"]i have been getting PM’s as to what I know about Marques Houston and Chris Stokes and TUG.I was on another board and Chris and Marques homosexual relationship came up. Thet have been involved for many years. And here is my response to those loyal fans who do not believe………………………. Being around TUG was like being in Sodom and Gommorah. They used the worst tactics on those kids. Brainwashing, threats, sexual and physical abuse. Hell, I was there when Taz socked the s#^& out of Kelton (from immature) just because he didn’t hear the command she was giving him and he was 12 at the time. I remember Chris threatening to ruin your career if you didn’t do what he wanted. All of the artists that would not put out for him or Taz they got rid of. That’s why they didn’t have any adult artists. I witnessed all that I needed to for several years, from the time Chris lived with Marques at his house in the Crenshaw area, to the house he shared with his momma in Northridge, to Chris’ house in Sherman Oaks, to the condo he shared with Taz in Studio City, to that house he had on Colfax. I remember when he discovered Quindon from Texas. Quindon was sweet, and innocent, and he dressed like a country cabbage patch doll, with a big afro, and he loved to flirt with girls ( it was cute). After Chris got through with him he was a slick little pervert. Real aggresive with females (and he was barely a preteen). I later found out that he acted out like that to prove to himself that he wasn’t gay. It’s like once the artists got turned out Chris and crew would use that as blackmail for the artist to stay “down”. I know for those who don’t know this seems crazy. How could they get away with turning these innocent kids out. Chris is a master manipulator, Taz is a master intimidator, and money will make N***@$ turn and look the other way. When I was around them it always seemed whenever I came around I had just missed something. S&^% was always being done on the low. I could never put my finger on it. I never wanted to think bad about them so I always thought I was trippin. Or if you spoke on something Chris would turn everything around on you and say things in such a way it would make you say how could I ever think anything wrong about him. Well fellow board members I was BAMMBOOZLED!!!!!!!! I am so f%^%#@ mad at this. I tried to put these memories and them punka$$ b&^&*&$ out of my memory. It’s like the more I type the more I’m remembering (sp). I am going to tell all you TUG fans ya’ll buying into a fantasy. Them ni%%@$ AIN’T RIGHT. I have been on tour with them and heard all of them talk **** about the fans. Chris use to pull fat girls onstage as a joke for immature or B2K to sing to and everybody backstage would be laughing and making fun. Or when would fans ask for a pic/autograph, the guys ( IMX AND B2K with Chris) would be clowning the fans who were less desirable to them. I was there when Beyonce came to Chris and Marques house to kick it with Marques and he referred to kick it with Chris in Chris’ bedroom. And B sittin there with LeToya(DC) and Jerome (from IMX) wondering why he won’t spend time with her. I remember the times Chris and his sister Smooth would get drunk on tour and start making sexual advances to the same sexes. Chris use to get immature drunk and high. Smooth use to f#$^ the female dancers. Smooth is a freak. My home boy got her on tape drunk 69′n this girl at a party. She also on tape in a threesome with a girl and R. Kelly (this was around the time he did “You Remind Me”). Chris tried to turn out Monteco (he was signed to MCA at 14 was suppose to be the next Bobby Brown) but when he couldn’t get him sexually, he turned him onto drugs. That little boy turned out to be a crackhead (I know this cause I saw him in New Orleans asking for money for some crack). This was after Chris got Monteco’s recording and marketing budgets used them/him up and then dumped him.Chris has a knack for signing artists to deals, and taking the budgets(monies) and spending it on himself and his family.That’s why you only see a single and one video from most of his acts. I remember the group Gyrl. Taz turned out one of the girls and Marques got another one of them (the lead singer) pregnant. She had the baby by the way. Now I wrote all this to say, those people are so far from perfect that it don’t make no sense. The problem is when they percieve themselves to be so perfect and the fans take it further by believing that they are. Those who are in the industry are privy to certain info. You would not believe how many celebrities are gay but they pretend not to be just to keep fans and get the fans money. You would not believe how many pervs there are. R Kelly is just the tip of the iceberg. Why ya’ll think he hasn’t gone to trial yet. I could tell ya’ll some s### for real. You would not believe how many schizos are in the industry. Houston is just the tip of the iceberg. Yall would not believe how many celebrities are out there with drug and sex sicknesses. And I am not even going start on how many of them have diseases. The industry is a big a$$ disease and all them miserable muthaf#@$&$ in the industry thrive off of giving all the new people that come in the industry the same sick s&*% that they have[/quote] I mean...WHOA! If what you say is true, just whoa!

Here's 2 Better Days 2008!

I don't know if this is true and i am not denying it, but putting it on youtube is suspect!

"GOOD SHIT YUDS, THATS REAL TALK"!!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself. That was pretty much the word prophesied for '08!!. My heart goes out for those not in the word. GOD bless.

JayZ leaving, about time. Def Jam president was not a good fit for him. His 2008 should be filled with bigger and better things. Chris Stokes a pedophile. I can't call it, although he does wear lip gloss. Him, B2K and IMX were all a little gender bending to me. And if he did do it then that means he did it to the members of IMX. Why ain't they saying anything. Does Chris Stokes have that much money? Why now? Why not after you accused him of financially raping you? It is a sad situation. Where are the parents? Isn't one of the guys in IMX (the one with the eye patch)RazB brother or cousin? I pray for all of them.

But honestly look at some of the pictures that B2K has taken in the past...they are quite questionable...and need I remind some of ya'll of that pic that IMX took on the bed in their drawers, B2K has a picture just like that...just type in Chris Stokes name in Google, it comes right up.

SUSPECT..... That is funny how while Raz's cousin is talking he is setting himself up for a blunt. Weed make a mofo do some crazy shyt. Chris is probably tired of paying for his habits. (HINT..HINT) Jay and B are gonna get their own label.

Can someone explain the whole JZ thing to me, roc, def jam and who he actually is making money off of besides rih rih and neyo?