Could This Be About You Chris Stokes?
Sources tell me that a movie called Dungeons and Dawgs which dropped back in ‘05 indeed tells the story of Chris Stokes and his child molesting ways. The movie, which was produced by Neil James who is supposedly very close to Chris Stokes, tells a three part story. And one part focuses on a successful male music producer/manager who forces his male signees to perform sexual acts on/with him before they are actually signed to his label. The music producer in the movie justifies his actions as “protecting his investments”. He tells folks that if one of his signees even thinks of leaving after they blow up, he has those sexual secrets to hold over their head so they stay put. And seeing that the movie producer was very privy to Chris Stokes’ molesting ways, I wouldn’t be surprised if this story is based off Chris’ down low ish. Especially since it seems like somebody wanted this movie to be wiped off the scene. Most movie sites were threatened with legal actions unless they removed the clips/info about Dungeons and Dawgs. But you can still check out a clip here. Interesting…
kwama
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:22 am | Reply | QuoteHe is disgusting!
chris
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:28 am | Reply | QuoteFirst!
Lexyb
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:29 am | Reply | QuoteThis whole situation is ridiculous. Raz B: don’t listen to this website, websites: we have exclusives/interviews. Grant it something fishy is going on but I am so shocked and appalled at the lack of common sense, integrity and morals of this situation. I wish everyone would give it a rest
Dondria
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:31 am | Reply | QuoteThird
misa
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:32 am | Reply | QuoteWhat’s done in the dark will always come to light…it is only a matter of time before the whole story gets out!!!
Lexyb
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:32 am | Reply | QuoteRaz B: don’t listen to this website, websites: we have exclusives/interviews. This whole situation is ridiculous. Grant it something fishy is going on but I am so shocked and appalled at the lack of common sense, integrity and morals of this situation.
Britt
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:33 am | Reply | Quotefifth!
Sameolsh*t
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:38 am | Reply | QuoteI can’t wait for him to exposed for the nasty mess that he is!
Queen of Film
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:47 am | Reply | QuoteUMM YEAH 6th!!!! WOW…..~ SHAKES HEAD~~
StarBaby
On Dec 28, 2007 at 10:54 am | Reply | QuoteI agree with Misa. Whatever you do in the dark will come to the light…eventually. And whatever you whisper, will be shouted for all to hear. Wow.
Dana
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:00 am | Reply | QuoteA certain other gossip columnist thinks that Raz B is the liar( I am not surpised though. The woman is completely ignorant.) I don’t think so. People like that is the reason why this type of stuff keeps occuring within the Black community. The victims become afraid to speak up because people will call them liars and question their motives. That is why people like Chris Stokes and R. Kelly still walk. We need people to be courageous and help put these sick people away. The cycle will continue if we don’t! I don’t care what they brought to the table musically! They need help. We shouldn’t ignore this!
Chelly's Two Cents
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:03 am | Reply | QuoteThis whole Chris Stokes drama is OUT OF CONTROL!!!! Everyday it is something else!
deLis
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:05 am | Reply | QuoteIn the top 10…maybe…
Eb
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:06 am | Reply | QuoteThis is crazy…everyday more and more info is coming out… So he cant even defend his validity. I feel so sorry for all them boys!
Sybil Blaize
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:06 am | Reply | Quoteits about CHRIS YEP YEP!!!!!!!
JRenee
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:16 am | Reply | QuoteDayum Natasha! You definitely get the dirt! Loves it! This is ashame. I hope the truth does come out about Chris Stokes and this ‘thug homo’ game going on not just with Chris Stokes and B2K but rappers too. This is why the HIV/AIDS cases are rampant in our community ’cause of DL dudes. Damn, Damn, Damn, James!
chris
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:23 am | Reply | QuoteThis whole situation is ridiculous. Raz B: don’t listen to this website, websites: we have exclusives/interviews. Grant it something fishy is going on but I am so shocked and appalled at the lack of common sense, integrity and morals of this situation. I wish everyone would give it a rest
WELCOME CHRIS STOKES IS LEXYB GLAD YOU ARE READING UR GOING DOWN YOU AND THE WHOLE BABY HAIR CREW!LOOK AT VIC EVERY ONE DONT GET AWAY WITH WRONG
dehjavoo
On Dec 28, 2007 at 11:41 am | Reply | QuoteSO SO SO NASTY TRIFFLIN NASTY TRIFFLIN MOFO CHRIS STOKES IS IM SO DISGUSTED
nonayabizznizz
On Dec 28, 2007 at 12:27 pm | Reply | QuoteOkay, wasn’t there a “rumor” of Raz-B being gay a while ago (I mean homeboy made a guest appearance on Noah’s Arc HELLO). But from the moment I saw Chris Stokes with that s-curled foolishness he called hair and those extra EXTRA greasy lips of his I KNEW something was tender about dude. I just hope that if Raz was molested he stands up to Chris and stop being scared of the lollipop guild.
Mrs. CLM
On Dec 28, 2007 at 12:46 pm | Reply | Quotenonayabizznizz wrote:
COSIGHN ESP. about Chris’ “s-curled foolishness”, and his voice….
Lexyb
On Dec 28, 2007 at 1:27 pm | Reply | Quotechris wrote:
Excuse me honey I have been a poster on here for a long time. Im saying I wish everyone would let it breathe and let the proper officals handle this situation. I am in no way advocating what has happened to these young men. There are 3 people who know the truth and we aren’t any of them!!
Dismissed
Marcus X
On Dec 28, 2007 at 1:38 pm | Reply | QuoteLet a real man speak on this my sistahs. It is what it is. I’m frustrated at the fact that people are trying to deny the young man’s accusations…more and more youth (male/female) are being stripped and manipulated under to guise of a family member/friend. The fact of the matter resides in the absentee father (Raz-B). I mean a straight up no BS father that protected his son. Like Raz-B has indicated, punk ass Chris Stokes took advantage of his family situation (Mother on Drugs), and used him for his own pleasure. This ish is happening everyday…As a man, it pains me to hear this, even if the person is now of adult age. A child is a child, and most molestation cases are dictated by pure intimidation. For those that would like for this ish to pan out and go away…shame on you…I hope your kids are in a safe situation. Please don’t take nothing for granted. Hug your child(ren) and speak openly to them about these issues.
In closing, I hope the little brother gets support and protection (legal) as he overthrows the self-deprecating victimized trauma out of his head.
Peace.
SunshineDaisy
On Dec 28, 2007 at 1:52 pm | Reply | QuoteThis is so sick. If it’s true, then there is nothing Chris Stokes can do to avoid vengeance. Even if he avoids the judgement and punishment that law of man can give, he can not avoid the judgement and wrath of God. Everything he does to suppress the truth, everything he does to halt justice, will only guarantee even more that truth and justice will prevail in the end.
PaigeyWaigey
On Dec 28, 2007 at 2:58 pm | Reply | QuoteDana wrote:
I FOR ONE KNOW WHO YOU ARE SPEAKING OF…THAT RETARD SANDRA ROSE.
chris
On Dec 28, 2007 at 3:06 pm | Reply | QuoteThe spot light is on him I hope he does the right thing and comes out victorious because Donnie Mckirkland came out about molestation and he still sales albumns!
raz b latest
Thursday, December 27, 2007
Let me explain this!
First and foremost, I do check my own myspace messages, I do know the password to my page (obviously), I do reply back to comments/messages, I do post blogs and bulletins so as far as this whole thing about people thinking someone broke into my account or that someone else is writing this and the bulletins I post or managing this site and I never get on here or whatever the case maybe as far as what people think in reference to this site right here, your wrong!
As I stated before, no I am not missing/no bloods is out to get me/can’t speak for other people though, but i will say no bloods are out to get me and as of right now, that’s my final word on the “Raz B is missing” matter.
Thank you for the support for those that have shown it.
Dana
On Dec 28, 2007 at 3:24 pm | Reply | QuoteMarcus X wrote:
Cosign this whole damn post!
Nikki
On Dec 28, 2007 at 3:45 pm | Reply | Quote@ Dana:
I know which gossip columnist you’re refering to. My sentiments EXACTLY. I wonder if she’s being paid as well……
Valerie
On Dec 28, 2007 at 3:54 pm | Reply | QuoteTHAT NASTY SON OF A B*T*H….ILK I NEW IT WAS SOMTHING FISHY ABOUT THAT DAMN CHRIS STOKES…HE LOOK GAY NE WAY !
j boog
On Dec 28, 2007 at 5:02 pm | Reply | QuoteFormer B2K manager Chris Stokes is vehemently denying claims of sexual molestation that appear in a recent online video made by group member Raz-B and his older brother, who now manages the remaining members of B2K. Stokes, who released a statement Tuesday denying the allegations made by Raz-B, repeated his claims when he spoke exclusively with MTV News on Wednesday (December 26).
Among the allegations made by Raz-B (born DeMario Thornton) and his older brother, Ricardo “Ricky Romantic” Thornton, in the widely circulated clip are that Stokes touched Raz-B when he was a child and forced him to shower with the other members of the group. The pair claim in the video that Marques Houston was also molested by Stokes.
“All the allegations they made are false,” said Stokes, who currently manages Houston and Omarion through his firm, the Ultimate Group Entertainment. “I’m not gay. And I’m married. And I have four kids. I been with my wife for 16 years. And I’m not a child molester. So those are all false allegations. I’m gonna sue them. And I owe that to my wife and kids, period. It’s ridiculous.”
Meanwhile, Kevin Sullivan, Raz-B’s business partner and the COO of their company, Raz Beatz Entertainment, said Wednesday that the singer is not ready to elaborate on his video allegations at this point, but that he is conferring with lawyers and preparing a statement that will possibly help explain his claims.
“With something of this magnitude, you always look at what the best time is [to talk about it,] and he felt compelled … that this has built up,” Sullivan said. “[He was saying,] ‘I’m tired, this is my story.’ It’s something that’s spiritual, and God says now is the time.”
Omarion also issued a statement on Wednesday, in which he defended Stokes against the allegations. The singer said Stokes has been a father figure to him and the group, and that his manager never enaged in any activity unbefitting to a minor.
“I want to be on the record as saying that ‘Raz-B’ Thornton and Ricardo Thornton are lying regarding Chris Stokes,” Omarion said. “Chris is a father figure to myself and many others in the industry. He’s guided us, helped raised us and is nothing more than an inspiration and someone I respect and look up to. I have spent countless hours, days, weeks and months with the man — since the age of 5 — and have never once seen him behave inappropriately. He’s married to my aunt, and I know this man very well. I stand behind him with no question whatsoever. I have grown up around Chris, and this is crazy to me. These people have damaged me and my reputation. I won’t stand silent and will do all within my means to speak the truth about this matter.”
Much of the video is a purported conversation between Raz-B and Houston’s older sister, identified as Danielle Houston, about her brother, a longtime client of Stokes’. In the clip, Danielle Houston says she does not believe the allegations.
“It all started with Chris Stokes,” Raz-B says in the video. “It started one day when Chris was like — ‘Let me touch you’ … I can’t speak for everybody, but if you want my personal opinion, I think he did (touch all the other group members).” Raz-B claims the molestation began when he was 11 or 12 years old, when Ricardo was in another Stokes-managed group before Marques Houston got involved with the TUG management team.
He tells Danielle Houston that came out with the allegations now because Ricardo got so upset when he heard about the alleged molestation that Raz-B thinks his older sibling might be suicidal or possibly about to do something drastic.
“I’m not lying, I’m not lying about a mother—-ing thing,” Raz-B says at one point.
In the second part of the video, Raz-B is seen arguing with an unidentified woman, who appears to be referring to how upset Stokes is by the allegations. “You know why he feels threatened,” Raz-B says in response to the woman’s questions. “Because the whole world already knows, everybody already knows the truth.”
Ricardo Thornton is seen blaming himself for not saving his younger brother from the alleged advances, saying, “Chris [Stokes] made me take showers with the other boys. … All that little sh– that my brother was introduced to, that sh– was brought to me first, and I blocked that sh–. I wasn’t with it, I backed off … I kinda knew what was going on over there, and yet I took my brother over to Chris. I didn’t protect him like I should have. [Stokes] molested my brother and he molested me … when I say that, it hurts …”
The pair later provide what they claim is a confession from Stokes, in which a man identified as the manager says, “I don’t do that anymore. That was me years ago … I just don’t do that in my life anymore.” In a heated exchange with the man identified as Stokes, Ricardo is seen complaining about being escorted out of an event recently thrown by Stokes, and feeling like he and his mother were disrespected at the party. Near the end of the video, the man identified as Stokes appears to offer to meet with Ricardo to talk things over, but Ricardo seems unimpressed and repeats the allegations. The clip ends with the word “why” and a question mark.
According to Stokes’ representative, Ronn Torossian, the video is taken out of context, and Stokes’ comments were referring to his not financially supporting Thornton and his brother.
In his prepared statement released Tuesday, Stokes explained he “recently stopped financially supporting both individuals along with assisting them with their criminal and legal matters, which leads me to believe they are resentful and looking to benefit financially from this.”
According to Stokes, who is related to Raz-B — “He’s my cousin,” Stokes explained. “My mother’s brother’s daughter’s son” — he still assisted Thornton and his brother after the B2K split, through financial support. He also claims he had to post bail for Raz-B as recently as two months ago.
Stokes revealed to MTV News that he, along with Marques Houston’s family members, will be filing police reports on the grounds that Thornton taped their phone calls without receiving their permission first. In the state of California, it is against the law to record a confidential telephone conversation without all parties having knowledge of the action.
Stokes hinted his reason for cutting off the two financially had to do with increased monetary demands from Thornton and his brother.
“You have to understand, since B2K broke up, they’ve done nothing, and they really had no money other than the financial support I gave them,” Stokes said. “And so now, as you seen on the videos, if you did watch them, he’s saying his brother is ready to commit suicide. So at this point, they felt they could just do whatever they feel it would take to get the money.
After the B2K breakup, the former group mates — Raz-B, Dreux “Lil Fizz” Frederic and Jarrell “J-Boog” Houston — claimed Stokes mishandled their finances, an allegation Omarion denied. Since the initial allegations, however, Omarion and Lil Fizz have settled their differences. Fizz appeared in the singer’s video for “Entourage” last year.
Sullivan confirmed that a reality show featuring the former B2K members has been in the works but is currently up in the air due to the fallout from the allegations. MTV News attempted to reach spokespeople for J-Boog and Lil Fizz but could not reach anyone at press time.
Stokes said his lawyers had not been contacted Prior to Raz-B and his brother’s video appearing online. He had no previous knowledge of the accusations, he said.
“Not at all,” Stokes said. “Prior to this, they are making it up. They just went with what they could, I guess, to make something up about me. They really have incriminated themselves in many, many ways.”
Fablife2008
On Dec 28, 2007 at 8:45 pm | Reply | QuoteSunshineDaisy wrote:
Speak that Truth…..
shar
On Dec 28, 2007 at 9:36 pm | Reply | Quotei honestly believe it Chris just looks like he shiesty…and i had heard before that people had wanted to work with omarion but they did not want to deal with Chris…..either way I’m just reading all the accusations but i do feel like it will come to light and if not that thought will always be in the back of everyone’s mind….. think about it how is it that his roster has not grown? he has no new artists that is weird and Marcas loyalty is kind of sickening and regardless of him being married he would not be the first D.L brother…I’m team Raz his recanting was squirrly he looked uncomfortable and it was no believable
BeautyIzMyName
On Dec 29, 2007 at 10:19 am | Reply | QuoteSunshineDaisy wrote:
AMEN!!!!! PRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREACH!!!!!! THE WRATH OF GOD AINT NOTHIN TO PLAY WITH, OKAY?
LIES!
monkeypig
On Dec 29, 2007 at 5:10 pm | Reply | QuoteI really can’t say if i think this information is really valid or not
I mean,none of us know what really happened,so i think it’s stupid that people are taking sides and what not
And i also think it’s shady that all of this is coming to “light” on the internet of ALL places
Rumors get started and then all information is spun out of control
It’s unfornate what’s going on,and I guess since now everything is put out on the table…i hope the TRUTH is revealed sooner than later
capri
On Feb 28, 2008 at 9:24 pm | Reply | Quotei am a big fan of chris stokes and everyone else n the tug family. i stand by him n everything he does and know 4 a fact that he didn’t molest shit. raz-b is a lying dicky cunt bitch.
tharealist
On Mar 20, 2008 at 6:22 pm | Reply | Quotelies. Chris did it! which human would let someone sya somethign so foul without retaliation, what would be your intial response from a family member! saying that about you, his response is very odd and instantly i just assume he did it because it all seems to make sense now, use your common sense! when people are blinded by “luv” like this “tug fan” you allow kids to get raped and make them think its ok since no one wants to take authority, when it comes to whats right exclude your ties and just be upfront. damn!
sarita
On Jun 1, 2008 at 11:33 pm | Reply | QuoteSee, for Ricky Romance to have interviews with various blog sites around the net;
then there’s the pictures of the groups, B2K and Immature, in their underwear in a hotel room taken when these boys were in their mid-to-late teens;
the whole career long gender bended style and image of Immature, IMX and MH;
Stokes exclusive association with male adolescents;
how sex has been used to market the very young to the very young;
the former artists that have gone ‘hush’, like the family of one of the original members of immature, the half Filipino guy;
Tarver’s alleged church house testimony;
the age that Stokes’ sister was when she was performing highly explicit lyrics and actions in her stage act - he was her manager;
the fact that rumors of this started back in 2004 with witness accounts allegedly coming from Ricky Romance;
The way B2K was marketed with their videos showcasing 14-17 years old males and females in highly sexualized performances;
The mentality displayed when MH’s sister said “You must have liked it” in that youtube clip - talk about suspect. Birds of a feather flock together…
I don’t care about the retraction, denials, and continued pursuit of business and playing this thing off. I don’t care about the new/old music, projects and how good or bad they were; or how much they did or did not sell; or how much I personally did or did not dig them…something isn’t right, or WASN’T right for a very long time.