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Lisa Wu's Husband Ed Hartwell Speaks Out+Dallas Austin Blasts Kim+Mel B. Readies For PEEPSHOW

Ed Hartwell and Lisa Hartwell Ed Hartwell, former NFLer and Lisa Wu-Hartwell's husband, is speaking out about all the drama going down on "The Real Housewives of Atlanta". He says he and Keith Sweat--Lisa's ex and children's father--are not cool and the drama with Kim is real: ESSENCE.COM: A real man puts his foot down for his woman! So even after all the drama that has gone down between Lisa and Kim, which the blogosphere believe is staged, you have no regrets? HARTWELL: No, and it's not staged. Unfortunately, it's as real as it gets. It's not staged. I think it's crazy because a lot of things that they are saying are lies. Did Lisa make a phone call to Kim? Yes. Did she threaten her life? No. [The ladies] are taking it way too far but eventually the truth will come out because there are only so many lies that you can continue to tell other people [before] they start mistrusting you, and after a while you lie so much you begin to forget your own lies, which has been happening. In the end, you ruin yourself and your reputation. It's all catty. I know Lisa doesn't do drama either, but she got dragged into it because she's human and was offended. ESSENCE.COM: So do you think your wife did the right thing by defending herself? HARTWELL: I told her that I had to deal with this stuff all the time when I was playing ball, as far as all the negative comments. I told her to speak from the heart and give her rebuttal and leave it alone. If she didn't speak on it, people will assume that it's the truth if you remain silent. Lisa's response was never to bash but to set the record straight and say her peace. The more she keeps it going, she will give Kim what she wants and that's more attention. It's not worth it. More when you read the rest... ESSENCE.COM: Well, let's end it here. How is your relationship with Lisa's sons, Justin and Jordan? HARTWELL: Me and my sons have a great relationship. I tell everyone I have three sons. They call me dad; I never say my stepkids, they are my sons. Every kid is different but they are both wonderful children. My eldest son is about to turn 14 and I have conversations with him that I can't have with Justin. Jordan wants to train, so now we're both training. ESSENCE.COM; That's great that you're involved in their lives. Do you have a good relationship with their father, Keith Sweat? HARTWELL: Not at all. The reason is because [when I started dating] Lisa there was a lot that I had to stop from happening. I had to lay down the law, man to man. Have I tried to work out some things and put our differences to the side for the sake of the kids? Absolutely. I don't like to play games.
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Ok Mr. Ed. In other "Real Housewives" news, Dallas Austin has posted on his official myspace page that he is NOT working with Kim on an album deal.  And dude is real adamant about it too.  His exact words:
"We are not doing a song, we are not doing an album ... that was only for television!"
Womp womp Kim!  You still lose cool points for going along with the tone deaf bafoonery Dallas. And Mel B. is set to star in the upcoming PEEPSHOW--a new topless burlesque show in Vegas.  Reportedly, everyone will be topless except for her and Kelly Monaco.  Calm down fellas.

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wiill's picture

Somebody PLEEEAAASSE tell

Somebody PLEEEAAASSE tell Beyonce to put her makeup back on. I did NOT realize she was that UNATTRACTIVE. Some people look better with a lot of makeup. Beyonce is one of them. Beyonce, stop scaring your fans and put your D*%$% makeup back on! Dang! that girl is homely!
prettygrl's picture

[quote comment="296353"]LOL @

[quote comment="296353"]LOL @ Kim period! And Mel B needs to hand me her dress.[/quote] She needs to hand it to you while I watch.
Goliano's picture

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[quote comment="297789"][quote comment="296556"]Iam disappointed in the Atlanta housewives, and I haven't seen one episode, because my cable is out. But I have watch the other housewives shows, and enjoyed them, the first show with black housewives had to be the trashiest, everytime I check on a blog, it's sometime about one the Atlanta housewives...pathetic.[/quote] How do you know, if you haven't seen one? Get your cable fixed!![/quote] right? your basing this on what people are saying??? well, we are black (most of us) the show was about black people. sorry no one gave a damn about orange county!!
so mean's picture

Fuck that, Lisa is phony as

Fuck that, Lisa is phony as hell. She told Sheree, who told Kim. She was the only one who would've ran back talking shit. You know Deshawn and her husband didn't. Just like when that bitch Sheree purposely excluded Nene's name from her list, Lisa was right there instigating instead of diffusing the situation like a grown woman should've. When Nene was singing the song they showed Lisa saying "damn thats your friend". Eventhough clearly the song was a joke. Lisa started this bullshit.......
Chicagocarmel's picture

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[quote comment="296377"][quote comment="296369"]What did Kim say about Lisa?[/quote] allegedly she called her a crack whore and talked about her kids...[/quote] Said that was the reason she lost her kids!!
Who Knows?'s picture

[quote comment="296556"]Iam

[quote comment="296556"]Iam disappointed in the Atlanta housewives, and I haven't seen one episode, because my cable is out. But I have watch the other housewives shows, and enjoyed them, the first show with black housewives had to be the trashiest, everytime I check on a blog, it's sometime about one the Atlanta housewives...pathetic.[/quote] How do you know, if you haven't seen one? Get your cable fixed!!
Checking Blogs For Your Opinions?'s picture

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[quote comment="296558"][quote comment="296547"][quote comment="296416"][quote comment="296405"]I heard Keith used to WHOOP Lisa a**[/quote] she did say she was very unhappy[/quote] I'm surprised that Keith used to beat her. I think men like him just don't know how to appreciate a real woman. I love Ed and Lisa relationship..very supportive of each other.[/quote] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- She is not supportive of Ed....she dont want him to go play....she wants him to sit under her and sniff her a$$ all day!!![/quote] Don't let her fool you. That's the game she's playing, pretending to have his "best interest' at heart. She wants him to play alright. See how she was questioning DeShawn about the retirement, she's scared as hell.
Journeyman's picture

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[quote comment="296411"][quote comment="296390"][quote comment="296352"]Tell Ed to go SAT HIS TOOTED UP A$$ DOWN SOMEWHERE. He is acting just like a broad playing into that female gossip ish. FIRST OF ALL YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON IN HIS HOUSE, IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK ON HIS WIFE'S SITUATION LET HIM. YOU SEEM TO BE A HATER...[/quote] Are the caps really necessary. First of all, I am far from a hater, but I have the right to say whatever I want about whatever I want. My comment is in reference to him tolerating the gossip and mess that is going on between the housewives. No one else's husband was at the damn bbque, and Nene's husband last night gave them a speech about being adults and putting childishness aside. Now he is on essence.com talking about it again. He's not even in the situation so why is he discussing it in an interview. BTW, a real man wouldnt give a flying Fu()& about gicing no damn interview if the sih involved his family, he would act on it instead of speaking on it- so AGAIN_ TELL HIM TO SIT HIS TOOTED UP A$$ DOWN SOMEWHERE. Thank you and have a blessed day.[/quote] I guess you told her/him.
Journeyman's picture

[quote comment="296352"]Tell

[quote comment="296352"]Tell Ed to go SAT HIS TOOTED UP A$$ DOWN SOMEWHERE. He is acting just like a broad playing into that female gossip ish.[/quote] I agree, wait till he sees what he's gotten into with her?
Journeyman's picture

Sheree looks like a pelican.

Sheree looks like a pelican. She was not upper-middle class before she married a virtually unknown NFL player. She was a teenage mother who was arrested twice for theft in her "upper-middle class" former life. Seven figure settlement, really? Her snake ass needs to keep dreaming and get a real job and take care of her own self and her 3 kids. I like Ed sticking up for his woman but I do wonder how Keith has the kids when the word on the street is that he beat Lisa up during the marriage. Was it just that he had the finances to keep them? Nene is my girl, for real! She's so funny and will back up anything she says, unlike some of the other chicks on the show. That damn Kim, with her no-spelling, no-singing, doll hair-wearing, fake boob-having, prematurely-botoxed self is SUCH a liar and dingbat. I wonder what she's gonna do for money since Big Poppa dumped her behind.....
coco_fiere's picture

I guess so Mr. Hartwell. Glad

I guess so Mr. Hartwell. Glad he views her sons as his own, though. Kim, I guess that album ISN'T dropping afterall? Better go running back to Big Poppa's married, I'm going to continue fucking you, but will never leave my wife for you ass and call it a day I see Mel's still grinding. I ain't mad at you, girl!
Southern Queen Dee *TRYING TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE WITH HER PR's picture

It sounds like many of you

It sounds like many of you are ignorant on the subject of bankruptcy and I don't have the inclination to break it all down for you, but I will say this...Filing for personal bankruptcy is sometimes the only course of action to relieve your financial strain, you don't have to be living in "poverty" to file bankruptcy, filing for bankruptcy does not mean that one is broke, to the contrary one can still pay their normal expenses (rent/mortgage, utilities, car payments, food, clothing, etc)it means that a person owes more than they have (assets) to cover their debt/unsecured debt and filing for bankruptcy discharges those debts and allows one to keep whatever assets ($$) they have. "SHE IS THE ONE FRONTIN LIKE SHE HAS STACKS ON DECK" I really don't see how Lisa was frontin in regards to how her financial situation was portrayed or how she portrayed her financial situation on the show, she has her own business and is working on a jewelry line, and she could give classes on how to network like nobody else can, she seems self motivated.
BLAQCURRANT's picture

Hope its not true that Lisa

Hope its not true that Lisa filed for bankruptcy in 2007 SHE IS THE ONE FRONTIN LIKE SHE HAS STACKS ON DECK, lol. I guess you have to fake it until you make it... *side eye* and its unfortunate that Ms. Wu (lol) had to lay the SMACKDOWN on that heavy-wigged tramp, but that prostitute deserved to be slapped. Maybe she won't be tone deaf anymore.
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[quote comment="296470"][quote comment="296460"]I like Lisa and Ed as a couple. It was just interesting to read a Yahoo article about Lisa going bankrupt at one point "Lisa claims to be an expert businesswoman, dabbling in both real estate and jewelry sales, but she hasn’t always had the success you’d imagine, and she filed for bankruptcy in 2007. Apparently, Lisa has also gone by multiple aliases in the past, including Sharon Millette Wu, Sharon Lisa Sweat, and Lisa Wu Sweat. WHAT?!" I liked Lisa the most and thought she was real, but I am questioning her now as well.[/quote] In her defense (maybe my first and only time), alot of Millionaire's end up making bad business decisions and filing for bankruptcy. I dont evenknow how many time Donald Trump has filed for bankruptcy. Sometimes its in the lessons you learn along the way. Im sure now she has made enough mistakes to know what to look for and what to avoid...[/quote] Georgeous you are so right, and many people would be very surprised to know that a lot of millionaires have filed for bankruptcy and FYI filing for bankruptcy is not cheap! IT COST TO FILE FOR Bankruptcy and even or the regular Joe Schmo it's like $3,000-$5,000, "lessons learned along the way" definitely, she probably is an "excellent" business women in her own right.
BLAQCURRANT's picture

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[quote comment="296380"]Immaturity for all of America/world to see. First Flav, now these chicks. At least Keisha is dealing with real issues and seeking growth and change in her family. These heffas are carrying on about what? Somebody remind me. Tacky, broke, tricks![/quote] And what do you consider yourself? I seen plenty of times you respond in the same manner. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. *shurgs* And if you think Keisha is dealing with real issues vs. these women you are fooled. Keisha wouldn't be dealing with these issues if she wasn't "Keisha Cole"....you think Frankie and the Coles would be all up in that ass if she was one of us?
KleanKlear&_Kontrol's picture

Dang...me and my friend Jada

Dang...me and my friend Jada aka Suga just knew that "Tight Rope" was gonna be on the top charts "There's a tight rope...between me and yoooooou. And I don't know what I'm gonna dooooo"
Throws Sunshine In the Air's picture

I watched the show and I

I watched the show and I honestly believe that there was a huge undercurrent before all this. If you notice on the finale, NeNe said that she and Sheree' had known each other for seven years and "had history." Too, NeNe has known Kim for three years and knew who the mystery man was. Quite frankly, I think NeNe is very uncouth to say the least. She did talk really bad about these women [Kim and Sheree'] throughout the entire show. I don't understand, all this over her name not being on the guest list to Sheree's party and because Kim befriended Sheree'. There had to be something else that triggered this prior to the show. Secondly, I think Lisa got caught up in the fire. She just couldn't be like DeShawn and leave well enough alone. Instead of playing both sides, she should have gone with the flow of the show or at least her "character". I don't think we would have all this back and forth if Lisa had taken the neutral side with DeShawn. Who, by the way, showed the best perception of a professional black woman on the rise in ATL. I commend her for being honest (not knowing how to cook, too) and being civil. You can't blame the woman for having a chef if her husband could very well afford it. Overall, I think NeNe shouldn't have dissed her friend, Kim. Obvious she's not much better than Sheree' for engaging in a friendship with a woman who dates a married man and gloats about how he has provided her with this lavish, overly-botoxed lifestyle. Sheree' is very beautiful, and she knows it. Though I don't think she cares two cents about whether the world knows she is pretentious. And Lisa should keep her nose out of other people's business, regardless of the brown belt in Kajukenbo.
VTChick's picture

All of the woman need to sit

All of the woman need to sit down and thank god for all of their blessing. Kim can't sing and if anybody cares about her they will keep it real and tell her to give it up. Even with a voice coach she's not going to make it. NeNe I like because, she keeps it real and somebody had to go back and tell Kim what was said in the limo, that's woman for you. Sheree is out for what she can get, who the heck does she think she is looking down on NeNe. We as black woman have to stick together, if your doing your thing you should be happy for me if I'm doing mine. Stop hating girls and come together. There wouldn't be a show if there wasn't some drama.
Sherie's picture

Oh no, I can see why Keith

Oh no, I can see why Keith would wanna go down on Ed. It's wrong for Ed to have Keith's kids callin him Dad. That's messed up. They ain't got two biological fathers. There must be a distinction between the bio father and step dad. This is dangerous. It plays against Keith Sweat's manhood where his boys are concerned. Ed betta hope Keith don't "snap" one day.
Gee's picture

Why wouldn't you tell your

Why wouldn't you tell your husband what was going on?? Duh he's your husband, you share almost everything with him, that was one the most retarded thing i heard..lmao
Britt's picture

[quote comment="296378"]I

[quote comment="296378"]I knew Dallas Austin was not stupid enough to help Kim's tone deaf self to make an Album, and Sheree knows she was lying when she sat in that car and told Kim she had a beaufiful voice!![/quote] How about when they were in the studio and she was singing the sound dude had to remove one of his headset and Dallas was CUT! CUT! CUT!!Kims dumb ass was like that sounds bad NO DUAH DUMBASS!! ...LMAO
Tishy's picture

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[quote comment="296617"][quote comment="296580"][quote comment="296567"][quote comment="296535"][quote comment="296519"][quote comment="296511"][quote comment="296503"]Team Nene Snitches!!! I just love her now. Seeing how proud she was when her son graduated put a little tear in my eye. This is TV ya'll, take everything with a grain of salt. I remember watching an interview of a girl who was on The Real World and she said that it's the producers who starts the drama and spreads the gossip to get reactions.[/quote] Nene is my favorite as well. I dont know why everyone thinks that deshawn and lisa are so neutral. Both of them laugh. deshawn laughs and makes jokes on the sly when nene talks about kim and sheree, and yall yall saw lisa laugh and stick her head under the table cloth when kim called nene a drag queen.[/quote] I'm team NeNe as well.. I think that if Kim would have confronted NeNe about the song situation, she would have told her what she said in that Limo....[/quote] that's what i was sayin from jump..if that's really ur friend u wuda went to her and asked her what the hell is going on..not jump on sheree's HATE NE NE bangwagon[/quote] That's because Sheree was boosting her head up! I don't trust chicks like Sheree. Always getting a chick into something but when ish goes down, she ain't no where to be found or sitting there on mute like she was during the reunion when Nene got in Kim's face.[/quote] She did not once say anything to NeNe, but you have so much to say behind her back!! And Kim trying to use that."my kids are right behind us.." Oh please, I could smell the fear through the t.v......[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheree is fake....she dont even like Kim herself....she only hangs with her because Kim fawns all over her.... When they took the pic at the Ed's birthday party...I knew right then Sheree is fake....cause I aint taking no picture with nobody I dont like....and Lisa is wrong for even trying to get them to take a pic together...being that she is the one that started the mess... Kim is just horrible...her big a$$ daughters STILL sleeping with her...that's because she is letting her daughters take the place of a man....I hate moms who try to be their kids friends and not be their mom.....she gonna be kicking herself when they get older....[/quote] You are so right on the money. Lisa was always running back and repeating things. You always have to ask yourself "Why would a friend repeat something to you that they know is going to hurt you?" Why call that person on it and defend your friend and then leave it alone. If it comes up and your friend ask you why didn't you say something to her you can say "I defended you and had no need to tell you something that someone said to you that was hateful". Lisa always started crap. Sheree know she doesn't like Kim. How can you call NeNe (another Black Woman) GHETTO and buddy up with a woman who is dating a married man?
Mika's picture

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[quote comment="296422"][quote comment="296370"]I saw our President elect this morning going through downtown Chicago. It was so exciting just to see the traffic control people stop traffic in all directions until he came through. It was such a proud moment just to be able to see him. He was on his cell and I'm quite sure he was handling business. It put such a huge smile on my face.[/quote] Oh wow! That would be exciting[/quote] I wish I could have seen that.
Mika's picture

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[quote comment="296691"][quote comment="296617"][quote comment="296580"][quote comment="296567"][quote comment="296535"][quote comment="296519"][quote comment="296511"][quote comment="296503"]Team Nene Snitches!!! I just love her now. Seeing how proud she was when her son graduated put a little tear in my eye. This is TV ya'll, take everything with a grain of salt. I remember watching an interview of a girl who was on The Real World and she said that it's the producers who starts the drama and spreads the gossip to get reactions.[/quote] Nene is my favorite as well. I dont know why everyone thinks that deshawn and lisa are so neutral. Both of them laugh. deshawn laughs and makes jokes on the sly when nene talks about kim and sheree, and yall yall saw lisa laugh and stick her head under the table cloth when kim called nene a drag queen.[/quote] I'm team NeNe as well.. I think that if Kim would have confronted NeNe about the song situation, she would have told her what she said in that Limo....[/quote] that's what i was sayin from jump..if that's really ur friend u wuda went to her and asked her what the hell is going on..not jump on sheree's HATE NE NE bangwagon[/quote] That's because Sheree was boosting her head up! I don't trust chicks like Sheree. Always getting a chick into something but when ish goes down, she ain't no where to be found or sitting there on mute like she was during the reunion when Nene got in Kim's face.[/quote] She did not once say anything to NeNe, but you have so much to say behind her back!! And Kim trying to use that."my kids are right behind us.." Oh please, I could smell the fear through the t.v......[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheree is fake....she dont even like Kim herself....she only hangs with her because Kim fawns all over her.... When they took the pic at the Ed's birthday party...I knew right then Sheree is fake....cause I aint taking no picture with nobody I dont like....and Lisa is wrong for even trying to get them to take a pic together...being that she is the one that started the mess... Kim is just horrible...her big a$$ daughters STILL sleeping with her...that's because she is letting her daughters take the place of a man....I hate moms who try to be their kids friends and not be their mom.....she gonna be kicking herself when they get older....[/quote] .......so that makes kim a horrible person? i kno plenty of worser mothers that abuse their child, leave with every1 in the world so they can hang out, dress their kids poorly......i just dont c whats so badd about kim, i think she looks good, has nice jewels and her hair weave looks good, compared 2 others i've seen,, give her a break....the ladies r fab....[/quote] I dont even wear weaves but the dead animal on Kim's head is whack! Sheree has the best weave.
Lovely One's picture

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[quote comment="296778"][quote comment="296480"]I liked Lisa up till she went and gossiped about what happened in the Limo that night with NeNe's funny a$$ song. That's when I had to give her the side eye. Sheree talking about she ain't going to say who told her cause it was in confidence. Who else was in the car besides DeShawn and Lisa? And NeNe already said that DeShaun and her husband don't get into all that gossip mess. Ed had already gotten the side eye when he was sittin up in that kitchen making jewelry followed by showing everyone his speedos. Whomp Whomp. And what's up with these men marrying women who can't cook? NeNe seemed to be the only one who didn't have a personal chef on staff. I can't take it!![/quote] I feel you when the chef called her out and said Mrs. Snow hasn't cooked in ten years I was like WHAT?? You got 3 kids and a husband and you haven't even thrown together some sausage and eggs for breakfast damn what a life. At least she stays out of the drama though I'll give her that.[/quote] I was thinking the same thing.
megirl's picture

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[quote comment="296799"][quote comment="296404"]I feel bad for Kim's kids. She's a horrible mother, and she's so uneducated. The other kids @ school are surely teasing them about that horrible wig and her non-singing, non-spelling behind. K-A-T spells cat? Really?[/quote] And who lights up a cig right in front of their kids on national tv like that I'm telling you she has some screws loose she just sits and has conversations with them like they are on the same level and who keeps cigs in their refrigerator I'm not a smoker so I don't know these things but was that wierd or what?[/quote] its a cigarette..not a crack pipe??? not getting where you are going with that. and no its not weird to keep cigarettes in the refrigerator or freezer if you buy them by the carton...it keeps them fresh. i'm with you on the letting your kids be on your level part though. i'm grown and my elders are still given much respect..i will never be on their level
so mean's picture

[quote comment="296404"]I

[quote comment="296404"]I feel bad for Kim's kids. She's a horrible mother, and she's so uneducated. The other kids @ school are surely teasing them about that horrible wig and her non-singing, non-spelling behind. K-A-T spells cat? Really?[/quote] And who lights up a cig right in front of their kids on national tv like that I'm telling you she has some screws loose she just sits and has conversations with them like they are on the same level and who keeps cigs in their refrigerator I'm not a smoker so I don't know these things but was that wierd or what?
Claudette's picture

[quote comment="296352"]Tell

[quote comment="296352"]Tell Ed to go SAT HIS TOOTED UP A$$ DOWN SOMEWHERE. He is acting just like a broad playing into that female gossip ish.[/quote] Ed just standing up for his woman like any real man would
as good as it gets's picture

[quote comment="296480"]I

[quote comment="296480"]I liked Lisa up till she went and gossiped about what happened in the Limo that night with NeNe's funny a$$ song. That's when I had to give her the side eye. Sheree talking about she ain't going to say who told her cause it was in confidence. Who else was in the car besides DeShawn and Lisa? And NeNe already said that DeShaun and her husband don't get into all that gossip mess. Ed had already gotten the side eye when he was sittin up in that kitchen making jewelry followed by showing everyone his speedos. Whomp Whomp. And what's up with these men marrying women who can't cook? NeNe seemed to be the only one who didn't have a personal chef on staff. I can't take it!![/quote] I feel you when the chef called her out and said Mrs. Snow hasn't cooked in ten years I was like WHAT?? You got 3 kids and a husband and you haven't even thrown together some sausage and eggs for breakfast damn what a life. At least she stays out of the drama though I'll give her that.
Claudette's picture

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[quote comment="296717"][quote comment="296691"][quote comment="296617"][quote comment="296580"][quote comment="296567"][quote comment="296535"][quote comment="296519"][quote comment="296511"][quote comment="296503"]Team Nene Snitches!!! I just love her now. Seeing how proud she was when her son graduated put a little tear in my eye. This is TV ya'll, take everything with a grain of salt. I remember watching an interview of a girl who was on The Real World and she said that it's the producers who starts the drama and spreads the gossip to get reactions.[/quote] Nene is my favorite as well. I dont know why everyone thinks that deshawn and lisa are so neutral. Both of them laugh. deshawn laughs and makes jokes on the sly when nene talks about kim and sheree, and yall yall saw lisa laugh and stick her head under the table cloth when kim called nene a drag queen.[/quote] I'm team NeNe as well.. I think that if Kim would have confronted NeNe about the song situation, she would have told her what she said in that Limo....[/quote] that's what i was sayin from jump..if that's really ur friend u wuda went to her and asked her what the hell is going on..not jump on sheree's HATE NE NE bangwagon[/quote] That's because Sheree was boosting her head up! I don't trust chicks like Sheree. Always getting a chick into something but when ish goes down, she ain't no where to be found or sitting there on mute like she was during the reunion when Nene got in Kim's face.[/quote] She did not once say anything to NeNe, but you have so much to say behind her back!! And Kim trying to use that."my kids are right behind us.." Oh please, I could smell the fear through the t.v......[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheree is fake....she dont even like Kim herself....she only hangs with her because Kim fawns all over her.... When they took the pic at the Ed's birthday party...I knew right then Sheree is fake....cause I aint taking no picture with nobody I dont like....and Lisa is wrong for even trying to get them to take a pic together...being that she is the one that started the mess... Kim is just horrible...her big a$$ daughters STILL sleeping with her...that's because she is letting her daughters take the place of a man....I hate moms who try to be their kids friends and not be their mom.....she gonna be kicking herself when they get older....[/quote] .......so that makes kim a horrible person? i kno plenty of worser mothers that abuse their child, leave with every1 in the world so they can hang out, dress their kids poorly......i just dont c whats so badd about kim, i think she looks good, has nice jewels and her hair weave looks good, compared 2 others i've seen,, give her a break....the ladies r fab....[/quote] Did you just say WORSER?[/quote] LMAO!! and for the record--sleeping with a married man and having GIRLS (who you are teaching this is ok to)makes you a damn bad mother in my eyes...and i am a mother!!
so mean's picture

Well I just wanna say that I

Well I just wanna say that I loved last nights show Dallas put Kim on blast and basically told her look if you really wanna sing you need to step it up 100,000 notches otherwise sit down somewhere basically cuz you really have no talent. Michael Knight put Sheree on blast about trying to be a designer but not having anything to do with anything I mean she didn't even pick out her fabrics for Christ' sake she doesn't sketch or anything I just really don't understand her and I love Nene's gay friend because even though he wasn't on the show last night he be calllin it out before it even happens. Kim really does need a reality check about life in general she seems a little disconnected almost slow sometimes but it did say in the ending credits that her and Big Poppa broke up so maybe his wife found out or something IDK. And I commend Ed for speaking on behalf of Lisa it doesn't hurt anybody for him to say his piece in all of it I think they have a solid foundation he's just trying to be supportive of his wife. Overall all of their drama just gives me something to laugh about but does anyone know what exactly happened with Kim and Lisa to where Lisa even had to call her and all that in the first place???
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[quote comment="296617"][quote comment="296580"][quote comment="296567"][quote comment="296535"][quote comment="296519"][quote comment="296511"][quote comment="296503"]Team Nene Snitches!!! I just love her now. Seeing how proud she was when her son graduated put a little tear in my eye. This is TV ya'll, take everything with a grain of salt. I remember watching an interview of a girl who was on The Real World and she said that it's the producers who starts the drama and spreads the gossip to get reactions.[/quote] Nene is my favorite as well. I dont know why everyone thinks that deshawn and lisa are so neutral. Both of them laugh. deshawn laughs and makes jokes on the sly when nene talks about kim and sheree, and yall yall saw lisa laugh and stick her head under the table cloth when kim called nene a drag queen.[/quote] I'm team NeNe as well.. I think that if Kim would have confronted NeNe about the song situation, she would have told her what she said in that Limo....[/quote] that's what i was sayin from jump..if that's really ur friend u wuda went to her and asked her what the hell is going on..not jump on sheree's HATE NE NE bangwagon[/quote] That's because Sheree was boosting her head up! I don't trust chicks like Sheree. Always getting a chick into something but when ish goes down, she ain't no where to be found or sitting there on mute like she was during the reunion when Nene got in Kim's face.[/quote] She did not once say anything to NeNe, but you have so much to say behind her back!! And Kim trying to use that."my kids are right behind us.." Oh please, I could smell the fear through the t.v......[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheree is fake....she dont even like Kim herself....she only hangs with her because Kim fawns all over her.... When they took the pic at the Ed's birthday party...I knew right then Sheree is fake....cause I aint taking no picture with nobody I dont like....and Lisa is wrong for even trying to get them to take a pic together...being that she is the one that started the mess... Kim is just horrible...her big a$$ daughters STILL sleeping with her...that's because she is letting her daughters take the place of a man....I hate moms who try to be their kids friends and not be their mom.....she gonna be kicking herself when they get older....[/quote] thank you!!! sheree is THE fakest!! ooh, i'd like to smack the hell outta her just once! kim was too damn stupid to play the game with black women...she just don't get it. sheree befriended you to get dirt on ne ne..hello dumb ass!! and if you looked at sheree's face when kim was singing??? it said it all! i read minds that day...and hers said "no this dumb ass bleached-blond, botoxed, siliconed, and old raggedy ass looking heifer is not trying to sing" LMAO lisa is fake too though...her cattiness just comes out in different ways. i agree she talks mad trash on those women...just to other women...LOL lisa is a woman you keep one eye on at all times. ne ne's big amazon behind shoulda whooped some ass for real!! it aint her fault kim can't sing and isn't friends with dallas (who is now in my bottomfeeder category due to this show) poor deshawn...much like her husband's b-ball career...she just didn't make an impression...LOL
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[quote comment="296410"][quote comment="296401"][quote comment="296359"][quote comment="296352"]Tell Ed to go SAT HIS TOOTED UP A$$ DOWN SOMEWHERE. He is acting just like a broad playing into that female gossip ish.[/quote] Yes he is suspect :shock:[/quote] Capital S on his chest. :lol: Or is it chesteses. *snap*[/quote] Those speedos!!!That video of him in the speedo should of been burned or thrown in the sea.That was too many tang-ness for me.[/quote] Who in their right mind would show that to his wife's friends and other fellas? That was straight up nasty! Ugh!
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here is the recipe: 8 servings For the crepes: 1 1/2 cups flour 1/2 cup crushed ginger snaps 6 tablespoons confectioners' sugar Pinch of salt 2 tablespoons unsalted butter, melted 2 cups milk 2 large eggs 1/2 teaspoon pure vanilla extract Vegetable oil as needed 16 six-inch squares parchment or waxed paper For the filling: 1 pound cream cheese, at room temperature 1/2 cup sour cream 1/2 cup confectioners' sugar 1/2 cup pureed fresh peaches For the sauce: 1/2 stick butter 1 1/2 cups sugar 1 pound fresh peaches 1/4 cup peach liquor 1 cup butter pecan sauce For the crepes: Combine the flour, ginger snaps, sugar and salt in a large mixing bowl. In a medium size mixing bowl, combine the butter, milk, eggs and vanilla and whisk until blended. Add the liquid mixture a little at a time to the dry mixture, whisking to dissolve any lumps. Whisk until smooth. Refrigerate for 1 hour. Lightly brush a 6-inch skillet with vegetable oil and heat over medium heat. When the pan is hot, remove from the heat and pour in 1/4 cup of the batter. Swirl the pan around to spread the batter evenly over the bottom. Return the pan to the heat and cook until lightly golden, 30 to 40 seconds. Turn the crepe over and cook the second side for about 15 seconds. Remove from the pan. Repeat the process until all of the batter is used, stacking the crepes between the squares of parchment or waxed paper to prevent them from sticking together. Set the crepes aside. For the filling: In the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with a paddle, beat the cream cheese until smooth. Add the sour cream, sugar, peaches and vanilla. Beat until smooth, scraping down the sides of the bowl as needed. Put 3 tablespoons of the filling in the center of the lower third of each crepe. Fold the bottom of the crepe over the filling and roll up gently but firmly. Place the filled crepes on a large platter or baking sheet, cover lightly and refrigerate for 1 hour. In a large saute pan, over medium-high heat, melt the butter. Add the sugar and cook, stirring, for 2 minutes. Add the peaches and continue to cook for 1 minute. Add the liquor and simmer for 2 minutes. Add the butter pecan sauce and continue to cook for 1 minute. Add eight of the filled crepes to the pan and cook for 1 minute, basting with the sauce. Remove the crepes from the pan, set aside and keep warm. Add the remaining crepes and cook for 1 minutes, basting with the sauce. To serve, crisscross 2 crepes on each dessert plate and drizzle with the sauce.
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[quote comment="296691"][quote comment="296617"][quote comment="296580"][quote comment="296567"][quote comment="296535"][quote comment="296519"][quote comment="296511"][quote comment="296503"]Team Nene Snitches!!! I just love her now. Seeing how proud she was when her son graduated put a little tear in my eye. This is TV ya'll, take everything with a grain of salt. I remember watching an interview of a girl who was on The Real World and she said that it's the producers who starts the drama and spreads the gossip to get reactions.[/quote] Nene is my favorite as well. I dont know why everyone thinks that deshawn and lisa are so neutral. Both of them laugh. deshawn laughs and makes jokes on the sly when nene talks about kim and sheree, and yall yall saw lisa laugh and stick her head under the table cloth when kim called nene a drag queen.[/quote] I'm team NeNe as well.. I think that if Kim would have confronted NeNe about the song situation, she would have told her what she said in that Limo....[/quote] that's what i was sayin from jump..if that's really ur friend u wuda went to her and asked her what the hell is going on..not jump on sheree's HATE NE NE bangwagon[/quote] That's because Sheree was boosting her head up! I don't trust chicks like Sheree. Always getting a chick into something but when ish goes down, she ain't no where to be found or sitting there on mute like she was during the reunion when Nene got in Kim's face.[/quote] She did not once say anything to NeNe, but you have so much to say behind her back!! And Kim trying to use that."my kids are right behind us.." Oh please, I could smell the fear through the t.v......[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheree is fake....she dont even like Kim herself....she only hangs with her because Kim fawns all over her.... When they took the pic at the Ed's birthday party...I knew right then Sheree is fake....cause I aint taking no picture with nobody I dont like....and Lisa is wrong for even trying to get them to take a pic together...being that she is the one that started the mess... Kim is just horrible...her big a$$ daughters STILL sleeping with her...that's because she is letting her daughters take the place of a man....I hate moms who try to be their kids friends and not be their mom.....she gonna be kicking herself when they get older....[/quote] .......so that makes kim a horrible person? i kno plenty of worser mothers that abuse their child, leave with every1 in the world so they can hang out, dress their kids poorly......i just dont c whats so badd about kim, i think she looks good, has nice jewels and her hair weave looks good, compared 2 others i've seen,, give her a break....the ladies r fab....[/quote] Did you just say WORSER?
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[quote comment="296617"][quote comment="296580"][quote comment="296567"][quote comment="296535"][quote comment="296519"][quote comment="296511"][quote comment="296503"]Team Nene Snitches!!! I just love her now. Seeing how proud she was when her son graduated put a little tear in my eye. This is TV ya'll, take everything with a grain of salt. I remember watching an interview of a girl who was on The Real World and she said that it's the producers who starts the drama and spreads the gossip to get reactions.[/quote] Nene is my favorite as well. I dont know why everyone thinks that deshawn and lisa are so neutral. Both of them laugh. deshawn laughs and makes jokes on the sly when nene talks about kim and sheree, and yall yall saw lisa laugh and stick her head under the table cloth when kim called nene a drag queen.[/quote] I'm team NeNe as well.. I think that if Kim would have confronted NeNe about the song situation, she would have told her what she said in that Limo....[/quote] that's what i was sayin from jump..if that's really ur friend u wuda went to her and asked her what the hell is going on..not jump on sheree's HATE NE NE bangwagon[/quote] That's because Sheree was boosting her head up! I don't trust chicks like Sheree. Always getting a chick into something but when ish goes down, she ain't no where to be found or sitting there on mute like she was during the reunion when Nene got in Kim's face.[/quote] She did not once say anything to NeNe, but you have so much to say behind her back!! And Kim trying to use that."my kids are right behind us.." Oh please, I could smell the fear through the t.v......[/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheree is fake....she dont even like Kim herself....she only hangs with her because Kim fawns all over her.... When they took the pic at the Ed's birthday party...I knew right then Sheree is fake....cause I aint taking no picture with nobody I dont like....and Lisa is wrong for even trying to get them to take a pic together...being that she is the one that started the mess... Kim is just horrible...her big a$$ daughters STILL sleeping with her...that's because she is letting her daughters take the place of a man....I hate moms who try to be their kids friends and not be their mom.....she gonna be kicking herself when they get older....[/quote] .......so that makes kim a horrible person? i kno plenty of worser mothers that abuse their child, leave with every1 in the world so they can hang out, dress their kids poorly......i just dont c whats so badd about kim, i think she looks good, has nice jewels and her hair weave looks good, compared 2 others i've seen,, give her a break....the ladies r fab....
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[quote comment="296654"][quote comment="296642"][quote comment="296614"][quote comment="296605"][quote comment="296592"][quote comment="296513"][quote comment="296506"][quote comment="296373"][quote comment="296355"]Mel B. is looking wonderful ... I still have yet to go to Vegas :([/quote] I'm going to Vegas next year for my birthday. I can't wait. I've never been either.[/quote] I wanted to go for my birthday at first but, now I want to go for New Years instead next year...[/quote] Hit up the Bellagio and the Forums![/quote] Are these hotels by any good clubs?[/quote] My best friend is the queen of VIP hot spots in Vegas. You need some suggestions?[/quote] I need some I'll be there in February.[/quote] Just let me know what kind of spots you are trying to go to.[/quote] Anywhere that will have a mix of music and crowd. But if the club will be playing a bunch of house music all night I'm not interested. :-D[/quote] Ok I got you. Let me email her now. She lives in AZ.
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[quote comment="296622"][quote comment="296602"][quote comment="296583"][quote comment="296512"]Does anyone have a taste for Ginger Snaps and Welch's Sparkling Juice?...Wine?... Cider?.. Or whatever you call it... I know that it is non-alcoholic and we have it at the Church on New Year's Eve....[/quote] You and Glam wit y'all cravings. I can't front I used to crave whole meals and would pout and not eat anything until I eat what I wanted. I would be like I wanna go to Nifty Fifties and get a bacon double cheeseburger and onion rings Strawberry-lime soda and Black and White milkshake. Let's go!![/quote] My last pregnancy was worse... I remember there was a time, that I went to Subway to get a sub, to McDonalds to get their fries and Sweet Tea and Wendy's for their nuggets, all in one sitting.............[/quote] OH SYHT!!!!....You too!! I would go the breakfast dinner for french toast McDonalds for 2 hashbrowns and a Sweet Tea and stop at the Arab cart outside of my building for just beef bacon x-tra crispy :lol:[/quote] :P
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[quote comment="296598"]I'm starting to think "I Fly High" is really Weaveonce or whatever her name was. Girl you just cant get enough. Did Beyonce piss in your Cherrios? If you dont like B WHY YOU RIGHT STEADY BRINGING HER UP! #9[/quote] nope, not her. I dont hate Beyonce,I have all her CD, uum except "I is Sasha" and I wont be buying it, Beyonce just makes for good jokes. especially while some of my professors are boring.
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[quote comment="296609"][quote comment="296577"][quote comment="296552"][quote comment="296538"][quote comment="296434"]This whole damn show is funny! Lisa started the whole drama by going back and telling Kim and Sheree about the incident with NeNe singing and now she wants to act like she is neutral. come on now! i do like Lisa's husband, but he is whipped! I am sorry for a grown woman to lose custody of her children (and to a man that is in the entertainment industry as unstable as they are) there had to be something really bad going on with Lisa in her life. I am sorry, judges usually don't give men that much of a right to have full custody unless the mother is just straight wilding out![/quote] Exactly! I don't know why everybody is jumping on Lisa's bandwagon like she's the ish. She's in it for the $$$ just like all those other tricks. Who marries (after coming out of a so-called "bad" relationship) after dating for less than two months? And then immediately have a baby? Trust everybody in the A knows Lisa is just as much as a golddigger as the rest. What now since ol boy got dropped from the Raiders and real estate is in the toilet? I bet money is tight right about now. Let's see what's the deal in two years. I'm sure she'll immediately marry another baller!!![/quote] Lisa is suspect too. Deshawn,she's not the brightest thing.Living a few fries short of a happy meal.[/quote] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DeShawn was smart enough to be with Eric from the beginning and now she is reaping the benefits... I'll say she' smart enough, LOL!!![/quote] If Eric did not go pro DeShawn would have been long gone. She looooves the money, and being in the spotlight, although no one is checking for her. She always trys to front, with the big staff and house she is trying to validate herself. Remember last week when she was talking to Lisa, and she said but ya'll money is not guaranteed. Ok what time is her chunky butt playing on? Also this is why she had the big charity event, she really wanted everyone to see her house. I mean ask yourself who has a charity event, but does not have a cover charge on the plate to at least cover your expenses. Also who leaves invites at the mall. Everyone is sleeping on how much of a gold digger sweet Shawnee is.[/quote] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont think she's a gold digger...because she's been with him since he went pro.... I do agree that she is very shallow and that it was VERY tacky of her to have that conversation about NBA/NFL contracts....like I said yesterday PEOPLE WITH REAL MONEY DONT TALK ABOUT MONEY....THEY JUST SPEND IT....
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[quote comment="296642"][quote comment="296614"][quote comment="296605"][quote comment="296592"][quote comment="296513"][quote comment="296506"][quote comment="296373"][quote comment="296355"]Mel B. is looking wonderful ... I still have yet to go to Vegas :([/quote] I'm going to Vegas next year for my birthday. I can't wait. I've never been either.[/quote] I wanted to go for my birthday at first but, now I want to go for New Years instead next year...[/quote] Hit up the Bellagio and the Forums![/quote] Are these hotels by any good clubs?[/quote] My best friend is the queen of VIP hot spots in Vegas. You need some suggestions?[/quote] I need some I'll be there in February.[/quote] Just let me know what kind of spots you are trying to go to.[/quote] Anywhere that will have a mix of music and crowd. But if the club will be playing a bunch of house music all night I'm not interested. :-D
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[quote comment="296636"][quote comment="296619"][quote comment="296610"][quote comment="296602"][quote comment="296583"][quote comment="296512"]Does anyone have a taste for Ginger Snaps and Welch's Sparkling Juice?...Wine?... Cider?.. Or whatever you call it... I know that it is non-alcoholic and we have it at the Church on New Year's Eve....[/quote] You and Glam wit y'all cravings. I can't front I used to crave whole meals and would pout and not eat anything until I eat what I wanted. I would be like I wanna go to Nifty Fifties and get a bacon double cheeseburger and onion rings Strawberry-lime soda and Black and White milkshake. Let's go!![/quote] My last pregnancy was worse... I remember there was a time, that I went to Subway to get a sub, to McDonalds to get their fries and Sweet Tea and Wendy's for their nuggets, all in one sitting.............[/quote] My last pregnancy consisted of egg sandwiches all the time. I eat a lot better this time around.[/quote] Egg sandwiches, wow, pregnant women have the weirdest cravings....[/quote] I eat egg sammiches when I am not preggo. LOL![/quote] with boiled eggs or fried?
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[quote comment="296611"][quote comment="296594"][quote comment="296588"][quote comment="296548"][quote comment="296541"][quote comment="296512"]Does anyone have a taste for Ginger Snaps and Welch's Sparkling Juice?...Wine?... Cider?.. Or whatever you call it... I know that it is non-alcoholic and we have it at the Church on New Year's Eve....[/quote] Ohhh I love some ginger snaps..i made some peach and ginger snap crepes** soooo good[/quote] I havent had ginger snaps in years. Maybe I'll put up some today.[/quote] I want some of those Crepes..[/quote] I have some good cheesecake I am willing to share. Which I don't do often![/quote] Ohhhhhh, does it have the frozen strawberries with the ghram cracker crumbs on it??????[/quote] No strawberries but graham crumbs!
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[quote comment="296637"][quote comment="296615"][quote comment="296598"]I'm starting to think "I Fly High" is really Weaveonce or whatever her name was. Girl you just cant get enough. Did Beyonce piss in your Cherrios? If you dont like B WHY YOU RIGHT STEADY BRINGING HER UP! #9[/quote] probably, I'm just ignoring IT.[/quote] I know! Excuse that! Even the stans get tired of hearing about Beyonce in EVERY SANGLE (yes I said SANGLE) post![/quote] No kidding, smh, lets carry on Vogue...
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[quote comment="296614"][quote comment="296605"][quote comment="296592"][quote comment="296513"][quote comment="296506"][quote comment="296373"][quote comment="296355"]Mel B. is looking wonderful ... I still have yet to go to Vegas :([/quote] I'm going to Vegas next year for my birthday. I can't wait. I've never been either.[/quote] I wanted to go for my birthday at first but, now I want to go for New Years instead next year...[/quote] Hit up the Bellagio and the Forums![/quote] Are these hotels by any good clubs?[/quote] My best friend is the queen of VIP hot spots in Vegas. You need some suggestions?[/quote] I need some I'll be there in February.[/quote] Just let me know what kind of spots you are trying to go to.
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[quote comment="296615"][quote comment="296598"]I'm starting to think "I Fly High" is really Weaveonce or whatever her name was. Girl you just cant get enough. Did Beyonce piss in your Cherrios? If you dont like B WHY YOU RIGHT STEADY BRINGING HER UP! #9[/quote] probably, I'm just ignoring IT.[/quote] I know! Excuse that! Even the stans get tired of hearing about Beyonce in EVERY SANGLE (yes I said SANGLE) post!
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[quote comment="296619"][quote comment="296610"][quote comment="296602"][quote comment="296583"][quote comment="296512"]Does anyone have a taste for Ginger Snaps and Welch's Sparkling Juice?...Wine?... Cider?.. Or whatever you call it... I know that it is non-alcoholic and we have it at the Church on New Year's Eve....[/quote] You and Glam wit y'all cravings. I can't front I used to crave whole meals and would pout and not eat anything until I eat what I wanted. I would be like I wanna go to Nifty Fifties and get a bacon double cheeseburger and onion rings Strawberry-lime soda and Black and White milkshake. Let's go!![/quote] My last pregnancy was worse... I remember there was a time, that I went to Subway to get a sub, to McDonalds to get their fries and Sweet Tea and Wendy's for their nuggets, all in one sitting.............[/quote] My last pregnancy consisted of egg sandwiches all the time. I eat a lot better this time around.[/quote] Egg sandwiches, wow, pregnant women have the weirdest cravings....[/quote] I eat egg sammiches when I am not preggo. LOL!
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[quote comment="296611"][quote comment="296594"][quote comment="296588"][quote comment="296548"][quote comment="296541"][quote comment="296512"]Does anyone have a taste for Ginger Snaps and Welch's Sparkling Juice?...Wine?... Cider?.. Or whatever you call it... I know that it is non-alcoholic and we have it at the Church on New Year's Eve....[/quote] Ohhh I love some ginger snaps..i made some peach and ginger snap crepes** soooo good[/quote] I havent had ginger snaps in years. Maybe I'll put up some today.[/quote] I want some of those Crepes..[/quote] I have some good cheesecake I am willing to share. Which I don't do often![/quote] Ohhhhhh, does it have the frozen strawberries with the ghram cracker crumbs on it??????[/quote] yummmmmm
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[quote comment="296602"][quote comment="296583"][quote comment="296512"]Does anyone have a taste for Ginger Snaps and Welch's Sparkling Juice?...Wine?... Cider?.. Or whatever you call it... I know that it is non-alcoholic and we have it at the Church on New Year's Eve....[/quote] You and Glam wit y'all cravings. I can't front I used to crave whole meals and would pout and not eat anything until I eat what I wanted. I would be like I wanna go to Nifty Fifties and get a bacon double cheeseburger and onion rings Strawberry-lime soda and Black and White milkshake. Let's go!![/quote] My last pregnancy was worse... I remember there was a time, that I went to Subway to get a sub, to McDonalds to get their fries and Sweet Tea and Wendy's for their nuggets, all in one sitting.............[/quote] OH SYHT!!!!....You too!! I would go the breakfast dinner for french toast McDonalds for 2 hashbrowns and a Sweet Tea and stop at the Arab cart outside of my building for just beef bacon x-tra crispy :lol:
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