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Tyler Perry On Spike Lee's Criticisms: I'm Pissed Off!


Tyler Perry was on "60 minutes" last night speaking about his empire, owning everything he does all out, his hard childhood, and his effect on the black community. When he was told of Spike Lee's comments about his work, with Spike calling Tyler's characters examples of “coonery” and “buffoonery,” Tyler responded:
“I would love to read that [criticism] to my fan base. All these characters of mine are bait, bait to get people talking about God, love, family, and faith. That pisses me off. It is so insulting."

Very interesting. And I indeed feel where both men are coming from. Your thoughts oh fabulous ones?

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I agree with Spike Lee 100%!

I agree with Spike Lee 100%! I can not stand anything that comes from Perry.
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@ It's Me Okay now what

@ It's Me Okay now what you’re saying gets good. We are now comparing Tyler Perry, a once homeless man, who had nothing, with Actions of a man (Don King) who at one time had been running Illegal gambling spots waaaaay before he started picking at Boxers careers, not to mention being charged with 2 MURDERS; and Berry Gordy a man who is the son of a White Farmer and a Black slave. Your right I guess we could compare them all!!!!!!Seem like they were all cut from the same “Color me Black” cloth. They seem like one in the same people. I’m gonna suggest before you compare people you dig up on ya facts. —- No I have Nothing against Whites/Blacks or anyone for that matter but just like Spike Lee is doing let’s make comparisons from the same class, My point is Don King didn’t care about anyone waaay before Boxing, and Barry Gordy was mixed so why should he care more of one race than the other!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------- WTF is your point? Are you saying since Berry Gordy is mixed but look and get treated as a black man that this behavior was expected of him? FYI Our President who looks like a black man and get treated like one is the son of a black African student and a white American student. So you're telling us black folks that we should expect some ish from our President in the future? Time will tell. P.S. You haven't respond to my statement on TP only seeing green.
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Magenta: I happen to be a

Magenta: I happen to be a fan of Spike Lee. Not all of his films are works of art, but I do appreciate the totality of his work. I’m not a fan of Tyler Perry. It’s not a personal attack. I simply don’t find his movies or TV shows interesting and there is something a bit amateurish about their execution. I probably never will be a fan, though I’m sure he is probably a very pleasant person.I don’t think Spike is jealous of Tyler. He has no reason to be envious. I believe Spike is being his usual caustic self.I think what I find most disturbing in this discussion is that people feel like no Black person should ever be critical of another Black person and I think that is absurd. Whenever someone does it, everyone screams “tearing down another Black person”. Now if Spike had been critical of Tyler the person, I would consider that tearing down. But to be critical of Tyler’s work should not be taken as some sort of assault on Black people.If you are going to put a piece of work out there, whether a film, book, painting, TV show, album you have to expect people to be critical and voice their opinion.All I see is one filmmaker critiquing another, which has happened since the beginning of filmmaking. Tyler and just about everyone knows how blunt Spike can be, especially when he is asked a direct question. I say Tyler needs to grow a bit of backbone and realize not every Black person is going to be a fan of his work. EXACTLY! Well said. Spike can critique TP. In fact, maybe TP will now step his game up.
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can't we all just get

can't we all just get along...isn't there enough room for lee and perry to make money...
letinstar's picture

All this talk about BET?????

All this talk about BET????? Anywho, I agree with both men, however Skool Daze was stereotypical, coonish, and had no positive message to me. Personally Spike Lee has always been full of it to me. Seems like he is jealous of Mr. Perry's success.......
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Spike and some other folks

Spike and some other folks are jealous of Tyler Perry because he doesn't owe or have to kiss anybodys @zz in Hollywood to make films. He is rich, talented and an incredible person. I like some of his movies and don't care for some of them but I still respect his craft and his impact on my community. Spike Lee needs to FALL BACK, apologize and ask Tyler for a job application.
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Okay now what you're saying

Okay now what you're saying gets good. We are now comparing Tyler Perry, a once homeless man, who had nothing, with Actions of a man (Don King) who at one time had been running Illegal gambling spots waaaaay before he started picking at Boxers careers, not to mention being charged with 2 MURDERS; and Berry Gordy a man who is the son of a White Farmer and a Black slave. Your right I guess we could compare them all!!!!!!Seem like they were all cut from the same "Color me Black" cloth. They seem like one in the same people. I'm gonna suggest before you compare people you dig up on ya facts. ---- No I have Nothing against Whites/Blacks or anyone for that matter but just like Spike Lee is doing let's make comparisons from the same class, My point is Don King didn't care about anyone waaay before Boxing, and Barry Gordy was mixed so why should he care more of one race than the other!!!!! Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: @ It’s MeThat wasn’t the Question. What you said was Tyler Perry is willing to sale Sterotypical movies to make himself money…..My question to you was are you saying his selling himself out (making an ass of himself) so that the Black Community could purchase it….That sounds STUPID. I could go with what you were saying if he was making himself seem like he was never black or didn’t come from what he’s writing about. That man lived on the streets so unless we’ve walked in his shoes we can’t really tell him what he saw or how he lived. If he sees it as such that’s his Imagination!!!! WTF You would probably be the parent to tell a small child his scribbled art isn’t what they see it as!!!! Who cares, If your gonna watch it watch it if not kick rocks and turn to another channel! Tyler Perry surely isn’t begging for an Audience! ————————————————————–@ It’s MeSo are you saying the (black) Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of Himself to make Himself Money? You gotta be kidding me! =========================================================== Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African GirlYes, I’m saying Black Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of himself to make himself money.Black Don King didn’t have any problems stealing money from his Black boxers while preaching the ole negro spiritual. Don King is a businessman first and foremost.Black Berry Gordy didn’t gave his black singers a their fair share of their music royalities and Black Berry didn’t want his Black singers to write their own music. Berry Gordy too was a businessman.All I’m saying is that not because the person is black andmaking movies with black actors for black folks that he has black folks’ interest at heart.————————————————————- The only color Tyler Perry sees is green! Whether it be a black, latino, white, asian or indian who purchases his movies.Like I said before, Tyler Perry is a businessman and a businessman looks for a market that has a need. In this case it’s the black folks who don’t see enough of themselves on TV and in movies.He taps into this market and provides the need but at the expense of deplicting stereotypical images/behavior in order to make money.TP has made about 8 or 9 films and the majority of them is stereotypical.As long as his films make money for him he will make them.
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Okay now what you're saying

Okay now what you're saying gets good. We are now comparing Tyler Perry, a once homeless man, who had nothing, with Actions of a man (Don King) who at one time had been running Illegal gambling spots waaaaay before he started picking at Boxers careers, not to mention being charged with 2 MURDERS; and Berry Gordy a man who is the son of a White Farmer and a Black slave. Your right I guess we could compare them all!!!!!!Seem like they were all cut from the same "Color me Black" cloth. They seem like one in the same people. I'm gonna suggest before you compare people you dig up on ya facts. Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: @ It’s MeThat wasn’t the Question. What you said was Tyler Perry is willing to sale Sterotypical movies to make himself money…..My question to you was are you saying his selling himself out (making an ass of himself) so that the Black Community could purchase it….That sounds STUPID. I could go with what you were saying if he was making himself seem like he was never black or didn’t come from what he’s writing about. That man lived on the streets so unless we’ve walked in his shoes we can’t really tell him what he saw or how he lived. If he sees it as such that’s his Imagination!!!! WTF You would probably be the parent to tell a small child his scribbled art isn’t what they see it as!!!! Who cares, If your gonna watch it watch it if not kick rocks and turn to another channel! Tyler Perry surely isn’t begging for an Audience! ————————————————————–@ It’s MeSo are you saying the (black) Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of Himself to make Himself Money? You gotta be kidding me! =========================================================== Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African GirlYes, I’m saying Black Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of himself to make himself money.Black Don King didn’t have any problems stealing money from his Black boxers while preaching the ole negro spiritual. Don King is a businessman first and foremost.Black Berry Gordy didn’t gave his black singers a their fair share of their music royalities and Black Berry didn’t want his Black singers to write their own music. Berry Gordy too was a businessman.All I’m saying is that not because the person is black andmaking movies with black actors for black folks that he has black folks’ interest at heart.————————————————————- The only color Tyler Perry sees is green! Whether it be a black, latino, white, asian or indian who purchases his movies.Like I said before, Tyler Perry is a businessman and a businessman looks for a market that has a need. In this case it’s the black folks who don’t see enough of themselves on TV and in movies.He taps into this market and provides the need but at the expense of deplicting stereotypical images/behavior in order to make money.TP has made about 8 or 9 films and the majority of them is stereotypical.As long as his films make money for him he will make them.
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Victorius: I think that

Victorius: I think that Tyler Perry’s movies are pure coonery. Yes there is a moral message in the end but why do you have to shuck and jive in order to protray a bigger message. I think that after a while people lose the message in the programs and just see the surface. Bc personally the more shows and movies he comes out with, the less I want to watch. He needs to do better. Who is shucking & jiving? Was Janet Jackson? Was Idris Elba? I mean I don't see whatever it is you are calling "shucking & jiving". You all complain when someone does something to uplift your community. You all complain when someone does not do anything at all. You all complain when someone makes it out the "ghetto" but obviously does not forget where they come from. You all complain when a Black person becomes a CEO & could give a crap about you or other African Americans. You all complain that there are too many divorces, miserable men, untrained children and rampant poverty. You all complain while sitting on your asses while families like the ones portrayed in some of these movies continue to multiply but are completely ignored. That is the reason why you all will never TRULY break the glass ceiling. You have to change your attitudes. You must realize that the family depicted in "Daddy's Girls" is very real. But by showing this it is challenging audiences to change this. Do Not Get Mad at Tyler. Be Mad at The Thousands of Families That Are Living This Way But Will Not Change. Be Mad At The Many Families Who Do Not Want To Live This Way But Have Not One Person To Give Them A Helping Hand! Those people in Tyler's films are real & it must change. It absolutely must change, not swept under a rug!!
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I support Tyler Perry

I support Tyler Perry wholeheartedly with his movies; however, I do not watch Meet the Browns and House of Payne - too much foolishness for me. You know how somethings are just too foolish to be funny, that's how I feel about these shows. My brother disagrees with me and watches Meet the Browns. That just goes to show - different strokes for different folks.
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Tick.tock.boom.: So is it

Tick.tock.boom.: So is it negative to show a drug-addicted mother sobering up and becoming a good mother for her sake & her family’s sake? Is it negative to show a grandmother who makes light of situations but is central to her family and helps get them on the right path? Is it negative to show women & men who’ve been through trials and tribulations but come through the fire still standing? There are still some Blacks living in poverty just like there are many of us who are going to school, working and trying to better our lives. Someone give me a reason why one, just one, Black director should be the one dominating the Black movie industry? and why should we only show one side of the Black race? _____________________________________Moreover, why do we need to “impress” white people? I’ve never heard a white person say to their friend “Don’t do that. Black people are looking at us” when they act up. No! That is stupid & as long as you look up to another race or group of people as a measure of morality or intelligence you will always be a slave! I go to school because I want to learn & have a better shot at a certain job not because my white neighbor is doing it. Black people will never rise as long we continue to tear each other down and lift others up. That is my piece. I’m out. Thank you...white people are not the damn standard. teh coonery is us always being afraid massah is watching. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves with these posts.
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Necy: Finally!!!!! Somebody

Necy: Finally!!!!! Somebody said it. I don’t understand BET. Its not necessarily the programs they have but I’ve noticed how they hardly have any black female VJs they have the ones that are latino or mixed, and there was one thing that really made me think something is wrong with BET, if u have seen the “Love lock down” video by Kanye and the have all these missing scenes and I didn’t think nothing of it until I saw the same video on an Mtv station and the scenes that were deleted were of two tall black women that were wearing like a bra and underwear but they were painted up beautifully and I do not understand why BET would blank that out, it showed two beautiful black women and they cut it out, it was not nasty looking, and you did open a big can of worms on that 1 (thank u) What??...Female VJs/Latinos/Love lock down/two black women wearing underwear???? Keep on topic!! This is a heated- intelligent discussion / debate about two successful/very influential black directors who are at odds about the representation of the characters in their films. Everyone knows that there are huge issues with BET but we are not discussing the garbage being aired on that network or its relevancy to the perception of black people!!! That can be another post! Bringing BET into this is sidelining the focus on these highly intelligent directors' arguments about their own work. I have actually been enjoying this debate on YBF (I'm quite impressed actually, its usually the typical Rihanna ish) and now its being sidelined (WTF???) What's next, is someone going to bring up the Real housewives of Atlanta and make the conversation in here go all willy nilly. Both men have done enough work in this industry to keep on topic without bringing other garbage in!!!!! Leave BET ish for another post - and get focused on this one!!
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I think that Tyler Perry's

I think that Tyler Perry's movies are pure coonery. Yes there is a moral message in the end but why do you have to shuck and jive in order to protray a bigger message. I think that after a while people lose the message in the programs and just see the surface. Bc personally the more shows and movies he comes out with, the less I want to watch. He needs to do better.
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Necy: Finally!!!!!

Necy: Finally!!!!! Somebody said it. I don’t understand BET. Its not necessarily the programs they have but I’ve noticed how they hardly have any black female VJs they have the ones that are latino or mixed, and there was one thing that really made me think something is wrong with BET, if u have seen the “Love lock down” video by Kanye and the have all these missing scenes and I didn’t think nothing of it until I saw the same video on an Mtv station and the scenes that were deleted were of two tall black women that were wearing like a bra and underwear but they were painted up beautifully and I do not understand why BET would blank that out, it showed two beautiful black women and they cut it out, it was not nasty looking, and you did open a big can of worms on that 1 (thank u) Y'all aint lying!
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Candice: Im about to bust a

Candice: Im about to bust a hole in all this..If people want to talk about coonery and buffonery then lets start with BET..No one is smart enough or strong enough to speak up against BET but will put down Tyler Perry..I understand why people have certain comments about some things that Tyler Perry puts out..It all reflects his life..the abuse and so on..If you can’t look at something on tv and separate yourself from what you watch then you have a problem…I don’t support everything black just because the person is black like me..I can take the positives from Tyler Perry and I can take the negative..and separate myself from it..Im not trying to say that i dont’ know what Spike Lee is talking about..but Tyler Perry all in all is more positive than BET..So many people are writing letters of complaints about Tyler Perry..what about BET? Hello?..I dont’ see Tyler Perry ruining the black culture and the youth..BET is doing that..putting out negative all the time and unfortunately these teens and some adults feel that they don’t deserve better so they allow BET to do what they do ..We are the only culture of people that have to cling on to things we see so that we can know who we are..Nobody has a mind of their own..everybody in the black community reflects everything they see and don’t have the smarts to say “hey this is wrong..i won’t support that”…Like Bill Cosby’s book says “Come on People” Finally!!!!! Somebody said it. I don't understand BET. Its not necessarily the programs they have but I've noticed how they hardly have any black female VJs they have the ones that are latino or mixed, and there was one thing that really made me think something is wrong with BET, if u have seen the "Love lock down" video by Kanye and the have all these missing scenes and I didn't think nothing of it until I saw the same video on an Mtv station and the scenes that were deleted were of two tall black women that were wearing like a bra and underwear but they were painted up beautifully and I do not understand why BET would blank that out, it showed two beautiful black women and they cut it out, it was not nasty looking, and you did open a big can of worms on that 1 (thank u)
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@ It's Me That wasn’t the

@ It's Me That wasn’t the Question. What you said was Tyler Perry is willing to sale Sterotypical movies to make himself money…..My question to you was are you saying his selling himself out (making an ass of himself) so that the Black Community could purchase it….That sounds STUPID. I could go with what you were saying if he was making himself seem like he was never black or didn’t come from what he’s writing about. That man lived on the streets so unless we’ve walked in his shoes we can’t really tell him what he saw or how he lived. If he sees it as such that’s his Imagination!!!! WTF You would probably be the parent to tell a small child his scribbled art isn’t what they see it as!!!! Who cares, If your gonna watch it watch it if not kick rocks and turn to another channel! Tyler Perry surely isn’t begging for an Audience! -------------------------------------------------------------- @ It’s Me So are you saying the (black) Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of Himself to make Himself Money? You gotta be kidding me! =========================================================== Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl Yes, I’m saying Black Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of himself to make himself money. Black Don King didn’t have any problems stealing money from his Black boxers while preaching the ole negro spiritual. Don King is a businessman first and foremost. Black Berry Gordy didn’t gave his black singers a their fair share of their music royalities and Black Berry didn’t want his Black singers to write their own music. Berry Gordy too was a businessman. All I’m saying is that not because the person is black andmaking movies with black actors for black folks that he has black folks’ interest at heart. ------------------------------------------------------------- The only color Tyler Perry sees is green! Whether it be a black, latino, white, asian or indian who purchases his movies. Like I said before, Tyler Perry is a businessman and a businessman looks for a market that has a need. In this case it's the black folks who don't see enough of themselves on TV and in movies. He taps into this market and provides the need but at the expense of deplicting stereotypical images/behavior in order to make money. TP has made about 8 or 9 films and the majority of them is stereotypical. As long as his films make money for him he will make them.
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Okay a lot of you high and

Okay a lot of you high and mighty people are starting to piss me off. Why do you care so much about what other races think of you? Do you seriously believe that one or two Tyler Perry films will change the views of how different people see us? No it will not, people are entitled to feel any ways they want to and if you’re afraid of how others will perceive it then do us all a favor and start with yourself. I love what Tyler Perry is doing because no matter how much you try to paint a pretty picture at the end of the day the scenarios in the movie are real, these are real life issues that woman/men face daily. And for the record I saw Tyler’s Perry recent movie in the theater and the few white people that did show up left when the moral of the story started to unfold. So please come off your high horse!
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And think about it, Oprah

And think about it, Oprah support Tyler is white on rice. Go figure.
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That wasn't the Question.

That wasn't the Question. What you said was Tyler Perry is willing to sale Sterotypical movies to make himself money.....My question to you was are you saying his selling himself out (making an ass of himself) so that the Black Community could purchase it....That sounds STUPID. I could go with what you were saying if he was making himself seem like he was never black or didn't come from what he's writing about. That man lived on the streets so unless we've walked in his shoes we can't really tell him what he saw or how he lived. If he sees it as such that's his Imagination!!!! WTF You would probably be the parent to tell a small child his scribbled art isn't what they see it as!!!! Who cares, If your gonna watch it watch it if not kick rocks and turn to another channel! Tyler Perry surely isn't begging for an Audience! Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: @ It’s MeSo are you saying the (black) Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of Himself to make Himself Money? You gotta be kidding me! ————————————————————- Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: @DaJournalist P.S. Tyler Perry is a business man. Spike Lee is a movie director. I have to agree with you.That’s were the difference lies.TP is willing to make stereotypical movies as long as it makes him money but Lee is all about his craft and about getting better as a filmmaker. ————————————————————-Yes, I’m saying Black Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of himself to make himself money.Black Don King didn’t have any problems stealing money from his Black boxers while preaching the ole negro spiritual. Don King is a businessman first and foremost.Black Berry Gordy didn’t gave his black singers a their fair share of their music royalities and Black Berry didn’t want his Black singers to write their own music.Berry Gordy too was a businessman.All I’m saying is that not because the person is black andmaking movies with black actors for black folks that he has black folks’ interest at heart.
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Drop3sizesin10mins!: It’s

Drop3sizesin10mins!: It’s not Tyler Perry we should be angry with for showing negative images of black people… we should be angry with ourselves & the news media for only reporting the worst in our society like the beating & killing of Derrion Albert by black youth, the brutal slaying of Jennifer Hudson’s family by a suspected black man, the rape and beating of an 8 day old baby by her 18 year old black father (google Reginald Davis), & the list goes on. Maybe had some of these troubled individuals had a no none sense grandmother like Madea, they wouldn’t have committed these heinous acts of violence that are being overly reported by a racist one sided media. Black people like this, and the media outlets that only cover stories like theirs are mostly to blame for why others see black people the way they do. Exactly!! Tyler Perry makes it so you see the evils that can infiltrate a community and how that community can overcome it. In Diary of a Mad Black Woman he shows a woman is mistreated by her husband. After time & counseling from her over-the-top but funny grandmother she learns to trust and love in a new way with a new man. That is the story young girls who are getting mistreated by boyfriends, fathers, etc. need to see. I personally never looked at relationships the same after that movie & I'm sure there are other young ladies like myself who felt the same.
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@ It's Me So are you saying

@ It's Me So are you saying the (black) Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of Himself to make Himself Money? You gotta be kidding me! ------------------------------------------------------------- Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: @DaJournalist P.S. Tyler Perry is a business man. Spike Lee is a movie director. I have to agree with you.That’s were the difference lies.TP is willing to make stereotypical movies as long as it makes him money but Lee is all about his craft and about getting better as a filmmaker. ------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I'm saying Black Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of himself to make himself money. Black Don King didn't have any problems stealing money from his Black boxers while preaching the ole negro spiritual. Don King is a businessman first and foremost. Black Berry Gordy didn't gave his black singers a their fair share of their music royalities and Black Berry didn't want his Black singers to write their own music. Berry Gordy too was a businessman. All I'm saying is that not because the person is black and making movies with black actors for black folks that he has black folks' interest at heart.
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Tar Baby aka Coal Black

Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: Alot of people are saying white folks don’t complain about negativity against their own? Well let me tell you. When the Sopranos first premiered, the writer got alot of flack from the Italian community because Italians are always portrayed as mobsters on TV and in movies. The Italians were hurt that it was one of their own that was doing it. After they saw where the writer was going with the series, he got praised for doing a good job in writing a series that most American families can relate to.Also, when that Jewish Italian actor-filmmaker Roberto Benigni made Life is Beautiful about the Holocaust, he got alot of flack from Steven Spielberg and Jewish leaders in the US about him making light of the Holocaust in his movie Life is Beautiful but when he won an Oscar for his acting, all was good. Aaaaaaaand there ya have it.
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It's not Tyler Perry we

It's not Tyler Perry we should be angry with for showing negative images of black people... we should be angry with ourselves & the news media for only reporting the worst in our society like the beating & killing of Derrion Albert by black youth, the brutal slaying of Jennifer Hudson's family by a suspected black man, the rape and beating of an 8 day old baby by her 18 year old black father (google Reginald Davis), & the list goes on. Maybe had some of these troubled individuals had a no none sense grandmother like Madea, they wouldn't have committed these heinous acts of violence that are being overly reported by a racist one sided media. Black people like this, and the media outlets that only cover stories like theirs are mostly to blame for why others see black people the way they do.
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Alot of people are saying

Alot of people are saying white folks don't complain about negativity against their own? Well let me tell you. When the Sopranos first premiered, the writer got alot of flack from the Italian community because Italians are always portrayed as mobsters on TV and in movies. The Italians were hurt that it was one of their own that was doing it. After they saw where the writer was going with the series, he got praised for doing a good job in writing a series that most American families can relate to. Also, when that Jewish Italian actor-filmmaker Roberto Benigni made Life is Beautiful about the Holocaust, he got alot of flack from Steven Spielberg and Jewish leaders in the US about him making light of the Holocaust in his movie Life is Beautiful but when he won an Oscar for his acting, all was good.
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Dawn Williams: This is not

Dawn Williams: This is not funny! Spike is a great director who has thought provoking films. I do not support nor do I like any of Tyler Perry’s films. I did not have any Madea like characters in my environment. I find it hard to believe African American people have to be protrayed in an ignorant manner. Yes, drug addiction, sexual abuse, domestic violence and molestation is rampant in the African American community. However, not all African Americans were survivors of the abuse. Tyler needs to maybe redirect his movies and stop preaching to the choir. Every choir does not be preached to. But he's speaking to those who are and need some inspiration to get out of that situation. If you cannot identify with the characters or the storyline then that is fine but many of us can. Moreover, his movie "Why did I get Married?" in fact did not have Madea and actually just focused on the state relationships in this time. But of course that is a lie/negative portrayal because all, if not most, Black couples are getting married and staying married right?
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I think tyler perry explained

I think tyler perry explained his motives the best. the characters are bait. in the past, i wouldn't watch one of his movies w/o the coonery of madea. but as we get closer to our own self-destruction, i see the messages in his movies that desperately need to be traslated to our ppl. in addition, he is the only one to feature legendary blk actors from the past that are out of work. spike lee is jealous and needs to sit his short azz down. when emergency situations like those children that weren't allowed at the swimming pool, tyler is the only one that took immediate action. he didn't have a fund raiser or grandstand, HE WENT IN HIS POCKET W/O HESITATION TO PAY FOR THOSE CHILDREN TO GO TO DISNEY. I DIDN'T SEE SPIKE OR HARPO EVER DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT!
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So are you saying the (black)

So are you saying the (black) Tyler Perry is trying to make an ASS of Himself to make Himself Money? You gotta be kidding me! Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Girl: @DaJournalist P.S. Tyler Perry is a business man. Spike Lee is a movie director.I have to agree with you.That’s were the difference lies.TP is willing to make stereotypical movies as long as it makes him money but Lee is all about his craft and about getting better as a filmmaker.
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This is not funny! Spike is a

This is not funny! Spike is a great director who has thought provoking films. I do not support nor do I like any of Tyler Perry's films. I did not have any Madea like characters in my environment. I find it hard to believe African American people have to be protrayed in an ignorant manner. Yes, drug addiction, sexual abuse, domestic violence and molestation is rampant in the African American community. However, not all African Americans were survivors of the abuse. Tyler needs to maybe redirect his movies and stop preaching to the choir. Every choir does not be preached to.
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I'm always seeing and hearing

I'm always seeing and hearing about white people going into some of the worst neighborhoods and trying to help some of the poorest of the poor. But Black people are always the ones complaining about how we "look" or are stereotyped but never do anything (except for select few like Tyler Perry who actually give back) to help others. Moreover, white people don't look at these movies and come up with these stereotypes they pass by your neighborhoods and that's how they get certain impressions. I don't know why it is so horrible to show people who are coming from nothing to become something. If anything Tyler Perry should be applauded. He probably teaches your children more in one of his 2hr movies than you will their whole lifetime.
Lolade's picture

I can see where both men are

I can see where both men are coming from because sorry Tyler some of your things are coonery, Meet the browns tv show is not funny at all. BUT I must say this abt Mr Perry he owns the rights to all his movies something that I'm not sure Spike does. With that said I believe we must applaud Tyler for placing little known black actors in his films or black actors that Hollywood doesn't usually recognize in his films. I do feel that he does need to break away from his usual stereotypes so that he can expand his audience. He will always have the same audience if he doesnt learn to reach out to the masses and get some credible hollywood acclaim. I will continue to support Mr Perry but it would be refreshing to leave one of his films surprised at the ending. I could watch Diary of a Mad black woman all day,I LOVE that movie.
chocolate diva's picture

There is a formula to Tyler's

There is a formula to Tyler's films and you can predict the ending before the film ends. All of Tyler's characters are one dimensional. The characters are either very good or very bad.
Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Gi's picture

Im about to bust a hole in

Im about to bust a hole in all this..If people want to talk about coonery and buffonery then lets start with BET..No one is smart enough or strong enough to speak up against BET but will put down Tyler Perry..I understand why people have certain comments about some things that Tyler Perry puts out..It all reflects his life..the abuse and so on..If you can't look at something on tv and separate yourself from what you watch then you have a problem...I don't support everything black just because the person is black like me..I can take the positives from Tyler Perry and I can take the negative..and separate myself from it..Im not trying to say that i dont' know what Spike Lee is talking about..but Tyler Perry all in all is more positive than BET..So many people are writing letters of complaints about Tyler Perry..what about BET? Hello?..I dont' see Tyler Perry ruining the black culture and the youth..BET is doing that..putting out negative all the time and unfortunately these teens and some adults feel that they don't deserve better so they allow BET to do what they do ..We are the only culture of people that have to cling on to things we see so that we can know who we are..Nobody has a mind of their own..everybody in the black community reflects everything they see and don't have the smarts to say "hey this is wrong..i won't support that"...Like Bill Cosby's book says "Come on People"
Candice's picture

I love the Tyler Perry

I love the Tyler Perry movies. He is a very positive role models for all races. Spike Lee needs to respect him.
Dalila's picture

So is it negative to show a

So is it negative to show a drug-addicted mother sobering up and becoming a good mother for her sake & her family's sake? Is it negative to show a grandmother who makes light of situations but is central to her family and helps get them on the right path? Is it negative to show women & men who've been through trials and tribulations but come through the fire still standing? There are still some Blacks living in poverty just like there are many of us who are going to school, working and trying to better our lives. Someone give me a reason why one, just one, Black director should be the one dominating the Black movie industry? and why should we only show one side of the Black race? _____________________________________ Moreover, why do we need to "impress" white people? I've never heard a white person say to their friend "Don't do that. Black people are looking at us" when they act up. No! That is stupid & as long as you look up to another race or group of people as a measure of morality or intelligence you will always be a slave! I go to school because I want to learn & have a better shot at a certain job not because my white neighbor is doing it. Black people will never rise as long we continue to tear each other down and lift others up. That is my piece. I'm out.
Tick.tock.boom.'s picture

@DaJournalist P.S. Tyler

@DaJournalist P.S. Tyler Perry is a business man. Spike Lee is a movie director. I have to agree with you. That's were the difference lies. TP is willing to make stereotypical movies as long as it makes him money but Lee is all about his craft and about getting better as a filmmaker.
Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Gi's picture

hautesauce79: Tylisha perry

hautesauce79: Tylisha perry movies are all the same and they are full of coonery and buffonery. Why do all his movies have to be about religion like all black folks are christians? Maybe we would be better off if we were. Huh? Ya think? :)
Michelle Obama is my She-Ro's picture

i like tyler perry, his

i like tyler perry, his movies have positie messages, and are easy for everyone to understand. I don't think its "coonish" truth is we all can relate to someone in the stories thats why we like it. Tyler does not show all black people as bad their are peopleon his movies that ar lawyers or successful businessman and woman i applaud what he is doing. I do't have a problem with spike, but what has he donr lately?
mickela harris's picture

Spike and Tyler are both

Spike and Tyler are both great film makers with an appeal to a base of fans. Spike didn't have to come like that. At least Tyler's "Buffoon" characters have redemptive qualities. Me thinks that Spike is just a little jealous of Tyler's success? All of Tyler's film have come out at #1. I think Spike did the same thing with School Days and Mo Better Blues portraying lightskinned vs. dark skin and crackheads and gangsters. GTFOH Spike.
Michelle Obama is my She-Ro's picture

P.S. Tyler Perry is a

P.S. Tyler Perry is a business man. Spike Lee is a movie director.
DaJournalist's picture

I have a question? WHy don't

I have a question? WHy don't black women ever play black women on tv? If they did, maybe a black MAN wouldn't have to. Tyler's movies are the only place where you can find an able bodied heterosexual black man taking care of his children (Daddy's LIttle Girls) or blacks AND whites interacting (The Family that Preys)... or black women being entitled to a happy ending where they are loved and cared for (Diary of A Mad Black WOman). Fairytale or not, I'm tired of being mad, fighting the power and getting killed in movies.. I need some laughter, some redemption, and I need to believe that a black woman can be loved... (THANK YOU TYLER) He is also looking to start his own network that shows only positive television. In this new media overrun with homos, rappers and video vixens, this will be a breath of fresh air. Thank GOD for SOMEONE willing to provide it. F*CK the hater Tyler!
DaJournalist's picture

TRACI: so sad…u never hear

TRACI: so sad…u never hear of steven spielberg downing ron howard or vice versa it seems to black community who downs the black community…the majority of the time…i just dont understand it…and i forgot but what film was that, that spike lee was up for an oscar?? i cant think of the name..because there wasnt one..and where is spike lee’s studio located? oh i forgot he doesnt have his own, personal studio on his own lot…if u dont like the movie dont watch it..bottom line… You took the words right out of my mouth!! It's the same with music, how often do u see white performers constantly beefing with eatchother??? There is enuff money in this world for all of us. I love Spike and Tyler! Both make movies that say something. Not everything has to be militant all the time Spike!! I do think Spike Lee either was nominated or has an oscar though. Not sure!
NO HATE!!!'s picture

I wholeheartedly agree with

I wholeheartedly agree with Spike. However, I feel that certain roles need to be played in order for Black film makers to advance in the film industry. For instance, Black characters in the early 19th century weren't even Black. They were white ppl who painted their faces Black. Since then, we have Black actors and actresses that have made the big screen, became household names, etc. Although I LOVE Spike Lee joints....I know that Perry is playing a significant role, and this role will help future Black film makers. But it is kind of interesting: Lee has been making movies for years with little to no recognition, his characters aren't bufooning around. But Perry gets on the scene, and all the White ppl are in the theaters laughing at Maddea. I went to see the last Maddea movie that came out and I saw White ppl there...and they were laughing their butt off. To myself I'm thinking, now they shouldn't be laughing that hard at this. Hmmmm. Thoughts to ponder.
LaShanda's picture

I'm on Spike team on this

I'm on Spike team on this one. Here is why: 1. Tyler is ghetto! Why does he have to play a woman in the movie instead of hiring a black woman to play the part? 2. His messages are about pimpin' black women and their social issues. Whereas Spike dealt with the raw issues with our community.
Life's picture

Bottom line to keep it all

Bottom line to keep it all the way 100. Spike Lee is jealous that Tyler came in doing the same he had been doing for years and blew the hell up. All Spikes movies weren't the ish either. I know people that can relate to Madea, my coworkers Grandma is 80+ years old and still talks big ish about cappn somebody or kicking somebodys butt. I agree if Spike did not do it, he has a problem with it. He is not the only one that is creative, there is different types of creativity.He we go puttn all of our dirty laundry out for everyone to see. This could have been done a different way.
T Weezy's picture

Spike is out of line to

Spike is out of line to degrade a fellow director, regardless of how he feels about his work, the white forum is not the place. The sad part is that black women don't want to play black women on the big screen, so black men do. Black women only want to star in white movies as the muse, or in hair movies... but no one says anything about that. A tyler Perry movie is the only place you'll see a masculine able bodied black man love his children (Daddy's LIttle Girls) or a black woman find love and respect from a black man. He has excellent character development (The Family THat Preys) and was enterprising enough to do more than start shit... he has an EMPIRE. If you watch his whole story, you'll see how integral black women are to him. What he is doing is FAR from disrespect. Spike just mad he been in the game for twice as long, but got half the paper.
DaJournalist's picture

You know what is sad is that

You know what is sad is that Tyler Perry's films doesn't show growth in him as a writer and a filmmaker. I think TP is all about the money with his films. Right now, TP doesn't need to write all this stereotypical crap that he does now. I understand that maybe he needed to do this in the beginning but now he doesn't need to do it for money. Does TP think this films will stand the test of time? Really there are nothing spectacular about any of his films. All of them are preachy and not funny. The only one that was a little better to watch was "Why did I get married". If white filmmakers were making these types of movies like TP, black folks would be all ova them but since he's black he gets a passed?
Tar Baby aka Coal Black African formerly known as African Gi's picture

Tylisha perry movies are all

Tylisha perry movies are all the same and they are full of coonery and buffonery. Why do all his movies have to be about religion like all black folks are christians?
hautesauce79's picture

I don't like to see them

I don't like to see them disagreeing in public like this, however, I do agree with Spike Lee...a little...I like Tyler Perry's character, Madea, and I like his sitcom, but the Meet The Brown's is straight coonery and we get to see enough of that. We just need balance. There's so much more to our community and the world doesn't get to know about it, all anybody knows is the stereotypical part...yes, we are funny, imaginative, creative and all that, but we're so much more. I would have liked to see these two come together and do something different, new, and fresh about our community
Reign's picture

Raphael THANK YOU. I

Raphael THANK YOU. I couldn't have said it better myself. Old negroes are stuck in the slavery time thinking that, ONLY the massah is allowed to laugh, party and have a good time. The slaves must keep their nose to the grindstone at all times.
jay's picture

Tyler is going to have to be

Tyler is going to have to be careful of old negroes who rose to fame during the affirmative action era, like oprah and spike. Tyler got to where he is with NO GOVT HELP, NO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, and is a GENIUS. Not only that he is extremely intelligent and a gentleman. I pray that he doesn't let these losers affect ANY OF HIS DECISIONS. THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED. And I hope he DOESN'T let oprah winfrey and her pathetic ideas of movie making change his product. SHE HASN'T MADE ONE HIT MOVIE.
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