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WHAT'S BEEF: Tyler Perry Says ‘Spike Can Go Straight to Hell!’

Though he was dressed in a suit for the press conference, Tyler Perry's alter-ego "Madea" must have taken over recently when he put the verbal smack-down on -ish talking director Spike Lee

 

Fed up with negative comments about his films, Tyler popped off to the media saying, "Spike can go straight to hell!"  Deets and audio inside...

 

While Tyler Perry is out promoting Madea's Big Happy Family, someone made a comment about fellow director Spike Lee, and it set the director off.  You may recall that Spike has been known to make a few negative comments about the "quality" of Tyler's films and so far....Tyler has stayed about the fray.  But not anymore.  Tyler told media earlier this week:

“I’m so sick of hearing about damn Spike Lee.  Spike can go straight to hell!  I am sick of him talking about me.  I am sick of him saying, ‘This is a coon, this is a buffoon.’ I am sick of him talking about black people going to see movies. This is what he said: ‘You vote by what you see’ — as if black people don’t know what they want to see.

“I am sick of him. He talked about Whoopi, he talked about Oprah, he talked about me, he talked about Clint Eastwood. Spike needs to shut the hell up!”

“I don’t even understand it.  There [are] so many people who walk around, and this is where the whole Spike Lee [issue] comes from — the negativity, ‘This is Stepin Fetchit,’ ‘This is coonery,’ ‘This is buffoonery’ — and they try to get people to get on this bandwagon with them, to get this mob mentality to come against what I’m doing.”

 

Hmm....I think Tyler may have a point.  I imagine every celebrity could potentially make a negative comment about another (we all have our opinions), but is Spike feeding intot he inevitable act of media pitting successful black celebrities against each other?

 

Tyler made an interesting point at the same conference saying:

“What they don’t understand is this, and this is what I want to make perfectly clear to everybody, especially black people: I’ve never seen Jewish people attack Seinfeld and say, ‘This is a stereotype.’ I’ve never seen Italian people attack The Sopranos, I’ve never seen Jewish people complaining about Mrs. Doubtfire or Dustin Hoffman and what they were doing in Tootsie. I never saw it. It’s always black people, and this is something that I cannot undo.” 

Now this isn't completely true....as we have seen the Italian community attack MTV for the "Jersey Shore" and "The Sopranos," but I see his point.
 

Tyler makes positive (generally speaking) movies and employs MANY MANY black actors and actresses and others behind the scenes.  Do we we gain something culturally from publicly tearing him down?  Whether you think his movies are coon-ish or not, would you say on some level he is adding more to the culture that he's taking from it?  Speak on it.

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Check out pics from the big Madea Hollywood premiere last night HERE if you missed it.

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don't ever compare the

don't ever compare the sopranos to Madway ever again ....are you out of your damn mind? Madea is as bad as soul plane period
ryanpenn's picture

To defend Tyler Perry's

To defend Tyler Perry's movies based on ticket sales is like defending McDonald's for however many f**ing billion sold.... It's not based on any artistic merit, it's just another example of America's love affair with banality and mediocrity.... So what if he's sold millions of tickets to his movies? It doesn't mean they're any good... It just means there are that many morons out there willing to spend $8 to waste 2 hours of their life on such dribble because their own life is really that boring!
Anonymous's picture

i think the real issue isn't

i think the real issue isn't being addressed here...tyler perry movies aren't any good
Anonymous's picture

Hmm...I don't like all of

Hmm...I don't like all of them either, BUT...Apparently somebody ( millions of somebodies ) disagree. Why does everybody have to embrace negativity?
Manwiththeduck's picture

Spike is SOOO YESTERDAY. He

Spike is SOOO YESTERDAY. He is no longer RELEVANT. He is Jealous and Controlling,Kudos to Tyler Perry for Doing his thing and making that paper. Spike is just a Knicks fan now. He is like a person on the side of the road with a sign "I HATE for food" as Tyler Perry drives by in his Benz
Anonymous's picture

This type of rift between

This type of rift between great black artists is not a new deal. James Baldwin and Richard Wright went after each other. James Baldwin jumped Richard Wright style of writing. But Baldwin got his share in in the late 60's when the Black Power movement dawned and one it's most vociferous writers came on the scene His name was Eldrige Cleaver. He ripped James Baldwin apart and said Baldwin envied some of Richard Wright's black male characters aggressive stands against white America . Baldwin got his pay back and who knows a generation from now someone will come along and say Spike Lee's 20th and early 21th century Black movie characters were nothing but coons themselves. Perspectives have a way of changing with time
A WRINKLE IN TIME 2011's picture

Spike thinks hes so high and

Spike thinks hes so high and mighty. I agree its not like perry negatively comments on every black movie. im a tp fanatic and
Anonymous's picture

Spike thinks hes so high and

Spike thinks hes so high and mighty. I agree its not like perry negatively comments on every black movie. im a tp fanatic and
Anonymous's picture

Spike thinks hes so high and

Spike thinks hes so high and mighty. I agree its not like perry negatively comments on every black movie.
Anonymous's picture

Spike thinks hes so high and

Spike thinks hes so high and mighty. I agree its not like perry negatively comments on every black movie.
Anonymous's picture

hate to break it to everyone

hate to break it to everyone beating that "stereotype" drum to death but many stereotypes originate with a basis of truth. People need to keep in mind EVERYONE can't fit it one of those boxes.
Anonymous's picture

Miracle at St. Augustine was

Miracle at St. Augustine was terrible. Read the book, please! For Colored Girls was beautiful. Perry>Lee. I don’t understand black people who become angered at Perry films. Stop being so consumed about what other people think of you and focus on developing your own identity and self love. And I personally am tired of hearing older people who grew up in the 60ss/70s try to force their views and ideas on a new generation. There is so much that we have to figure out on our own because you all won't get over yourselves! That's how I feel about Spike Lee, no disrespect.
Lai's picture

Right on miracle at St.

Right on miracle at St. Augustine...Sucked. As For Colored Girls...NOT TP. Ntozake Shange. Read up, youngblood.
Manwiththeduckuck's picture

You could not be more wrong

You could not be more wrong about the Miracle at St. Ana (the movie that you incorrectly cited)was an exceptionally well told story/movie.
Misccindi's picture

well i really dont care for

well i really dont care for any of the madea movies, theyre kinda boring in my opinion and not funny!!!!! but tyler perry's other movies like why did i get married 1 and part 2 i liked.....he has to develop a thick skin. i love spike he has a tougher personality i think..... and ps : most italians didnt and dont like the jersey shore....and i dont care for oprah either!!!!!
baby j's picture

First off Taylor Perry needs

First off Taylor Perry needs to learn to sit back and take some criticism from poeople who made that path available for him to make movies and money. Spike Lee damn near sacraficied being killed to make strong political black movies that address and attacked white racism and supremecy. It was hard to get Lees movies into thearters being that they addressed the ill behaviour of the very owners of the movie theaters and movie houses that were his opposition, which portrayed in his films and now it's easy as butter for Taylor Perry to do what he does. Lee is just like your Grandparents that you allow to curse your ass out and say what they want, eve if it's abrasive, but it comes from love and concern. Just like when Bill Cosby does it, we hate to hear it, but it's the truch and we respect him and move on, not tell him to go die somewhere. Plus Taylor Perry is responding like a feminized emotional woman, like he does in his movies. To Tell someone to go somewhere and die is so womanly. Taylor Perry is the only one blowing this up. Taylor Perry you are black and our community have different standards, like there are different standards in every community and you must uphold them. You tried real hard bringing up the Jews and Ms Boubtfire, but we are not jews and do not control that type of wealth and differnet stereotypes can bring down the whole community .
ShowRespectTaylorPerry's picture

You need to look behind the

You need to look behind the closed doors of spike lee he may have done some good however he also has done much worse to down grade his own people he talks about us as if we can't make up our minds and our too dumb to make decisions that are good this is just an example of how we tear each other down instead of building each other up jealous of what the next black person has instead of saying I am proud if you we try to put do them we show no love for each other and we are the only race that does this we need to just get put shit together and be happy with the accomplishments our people have made congratulate each come together as one and stop dogging each other and wonder why others dog us its starts with us and we are the only ones that can fix it
Anonymous's picture

You need to look behind the

You need to look behind the closed doors of spike lee he may have done some good however he also has done much worse to down grade his own people he talks about us as if we can't make up our minds and our too dumb to make decisions that are good this is just an example of how we tear each other down instead of building each other up jealous of what the next black person has instead of saying I am proud if you we try to put do them we show no love for each other and we are the only race that does this we need to just get put shit together and be happy with the accomplishments our people have made congratulate each come together as one and stop dogging each other and wonder why others dog us its starts with us and we are the only ones that can fix it
Anonymous's picture

You need to look behind the

You need to look behind the closed doors of spike lee he may have done some good however he also has done much worse to down grade his own people he talks about us as if we can't make up our minds and our too dumb to make decisions that are good this is just an example of how we tear each other down instead of building each other up jealous of what the next black person has instead of saying I am proud if you we try to put do them we show no love for each other and we are the only race that does this we need to just get put shit together and be happy with the accomplishments our people have made congratulate each come together as one and stop dogging each other and wonder why others dog us its starts with us and we are the only ones that can fix it
Anonymous's picture

You need to look behind the

You need to look behind the closed doors of spike lee he may have done some good however he also has done much worse to down grade his own people he talks about us as if we can't make up our minds and our too dumb to make decisions that are good this is just an example of how we tear each other down instead of building each other up jealous of what the next black person has instead of saying I am proud if you we try to put do them we show no love for each other and we are the only race that does this we need to just get put shit together and be happy with the accomplishments our people have made congratulate each come together as one and stop dogging each other and wonder why others dog us its starts with us and we are the only ones that can fix it
Anonymous's picture

Yes! Spike Lee has paved the

Yes! Spike Lee has paved the way for many actors/ress along the way. He has touch on some really educated views amongst black people and racistism. We as African Americans know that racistism still exist. However, People especially black people Terry Perry touch on reall issues today. such as religion beliefs and prayer which has seem to decrease in black community. Black people struggled a lot and we still have a lot to learn. I don't want to be reminded everytime I go see a movie about how white people do blacks. Its depressing, Spike Lee needs to get with the times and learn just like Tyler To emerge the serious issues and make some jokes of it. People don't to hear about whites vs Black all the time like we already don't know. And IF he is teaching young people Spike has to learn to appeal to them. That's why his movies floppin! Whether you're black or white we all need to come together!
The Queen's picture

OK, who are U talking

OK, who are U talking about??????? Maybe all of this is true and apply to "Taylor Perry" and not "Tyler Perry".
Anonymous's picture

First off Taylor Perry needs

First off Taylor Perry needs to learn to sit back and take some criticism from poeople who made that path available for him to make movies and money. Spike Lee damn near sacraficied being killed to make strong political black movies that address and attacked white racism and supremecy. It was hard to get Lees movies into thearters being that they addressed the ill behaviour of the very owners of the movie theaters and movie houses that were his opposition, which portrayed in his films and now it's easy as butter for Taylor Perry to do what he does. Lee is just like your Grandparents that you allow to curse your ass out and say what they want, eve if it's abrasive, but it comes from love and concern. Just like when Bill Cosby does it, we hate to hear it, but it's the truch and we respect him and move on, not tell him to go die somewhere. Plus Taylor Perry is responding like a feminized emotional woman, like he does in his movies. To Tell someone to go somewhere and die is so womanly. Taylor Perry is the only one blowing this up. Taylor Perry you are black and our community have different standards, like there are different standards in every community and you must uphold them. You tried real hard bringing up the Jews and Ms Boubtfire, but we are not jews and do not control that type of wealth and differnet stereotypes can bring down the whole community .
ShowRespectTaylorPerry's picture

Its TYLER, not taylor.

Its TYLER, not taylor.
Anonymous's picture

"Do we we gain something

"Do we we gain something culturally from publicly tearing him down? Whether you think his movies are coon-ish or not, would you say on some level he is adding more to the culture that he's taking from it? " --------------------------------------- No we don't but why is Tyler still talking about it when it was done two years ago. Tyler comes off as if he's the one who feels he's better than others. He critizes those who don't move to the beat of his drums. He must want Spike Lee to take him seriously or else he wouldn't have been offended. Cause, seriously, what has Spike done in the way of movies in years? Tyler is the new "hot" black movie maker. Although I feel his movies are as one deminational as ever, he's DOING movies. Not Spike. There is a saying, "when you throw a stone into a pack of dogs the one who yelps the loudest is the one who got hurt." it seems two years later Tyler is still yelping.
tellmeallaboutit's picture

If this was said 2 years ago

If this was said 2 years ago I just heard about it a few months ago. Someone asked him for his thoughts. He simply said he was tired of hearing about it, let the man have his say.
Anonymous's picture

Tyler's movies suck, his tv

Tyler's movies suck, his tv shows sucks, and I and many others wouldn't waste a dime supporting his work. He is also anti SAG union which is despicable.
Sunny's picture

I bet U didn't get pick for a

I bet U didn't get pick for a walk on in one of his movies.
Anonymous's picture

Why is Tyler Perry trying to

Why is Tyler Perry trying to resurrect all this? He's acting like Spike Lee is calling newspapers to talk about him, no YOU'RE the one whose acting butt-hurt Tyler. Spike was asked a question and he answered it honestly. He's not the only one who feels like that, and as someone who has gotten rich of all this, you should expect that not everyone is going to be in love with it. I don't get Tyler Perry, why is he acting like a 5 year old girl? Be a man, tell the reporters to go to hell with that question. But if you don't want to resurrect it, then why the hell you keep talking about what 1 director said about you years ago?
Anonymous1's picture

lol @ 'do we get something

lol @ 'do we get something from publicly tearing him down'? How many people have been publicly torn down here @ YBF, and not even for professional integrity but simply on the basis of choices in their personal life? Let's just call a spade a spade, Spike criticized Tyler Perry's ART 2 years ago, but Tyler is still acting bent out of shape because a part of him probably feels it's true. TP isn't worse than other White people who do silly comedies, but he's become the face of "Black Cinema', and when he accepts all those millions, he also ACCEPTS that crown. I mean, is YBF really saying that we shouldn't criticize other Black people, simply because it wouldn't make sense 'publicly'? NO ONE is above criticism. Why didn't he go after the Boondocks when they flayed him for his private life? Nah, he wanna hold onto what Spike said because he know that mess is true.
Anonymous1's picture

Stick to the point he have

Stick to the point he have the right to defend his name and work.
Anonymous's picture

I really can't sit through a

I really can't sit through a Tyler Perry's movie in the theaters! There isn't enough popcorn, candy and soda that can help me sit through his movies. I used to sit through his plays but when I did, a Madea character would come out of me and I'm female! IMHO, Tyler Perry's movies needs to be: PAUSE, FAST FORWARD, SKIP and STOP. One thing is for sure, Tyler Perry's movies never needs to be: REWIND or REPLAY!
Big Lips Big Nose Nappy Hair Tar Baby aka Coal Black African's picture

Maybe they hit to close to

Maybe they hit to close to home for U.
Anonymous's picture

Thank you! I was starting to

Thank you! I was starting to think I was the only one who literally can't sit through a Tyler Perry film.
CheyPie's picture

screw wack ass, northern

screw wack ass, northern boy_think he is better than the rest of the black folks, spike lee
Anonymous's picture

Look folks, forget about

Look folks, forget about Tyler Perry employing alot of black folks in the industry! Porn employs alot of black folks but do we want to be represented as such? No! If we don't check our own, then who will? The whole point is to critique our own and let them know that we expect better from them. We are not providing charity, we are paying our hard earn money to see a decent film. If we don't demand decent films from Tyler Perry or whoever, the same type of films will keep being made! As long as more money is being made from these films, Tyler will keep making them! If he doesn't get the money from these films, he will be force to produce better quality films or not work at all!
Big Lips Big Nose Nappy Hair Tar Baby aka Coal Black African's picture

Spike Lee has a point about

Spike Lee has a point about Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry does make coonery and buffoonery movies! That being said, I don't believe in the way that Spike Lee goes about publicly attacking Tyler Perry. He could call, text, email, write, fax, or fedex Tyler Perry and address him but instead Spike chooses to publicly attack Tyler. My problem with Tyler Perry is that he depends on stereotypical characters and behavior that has already been done thousands of times in movies and on TV to get a laugh out of his audience. Now, I don't expect Shakespeare type writing or an Oscar worthy film from Tyler but I do expect interesting & different characters and a well researched film! There is always one or more of the following characters in each of his films: a baby mama/daddy, drug dealer/user, prostitute, pimp, loud angry person, jail bird, dancing/jiving, sellout, abuser, dropout, welfare, ghetto living/behavior, minimum wage earner, flamboyant gay, thief and/or sports player. It ain't a Tyler Perry movie without one or more of these characters in it! Believe that!
Big Lips Big Nose Nappy Hair Tar Baby aka Coal Black African's picture

And u, like the rest of us

And u, like the rest of us wish we would have thought of it first! Tyler Perry work is entertaining and he is getting paid in full.
Anonymous's picture

I agree with Tyler totally! I

I agree with Tyler totally! I am a huge Spike Lee fan but I think he is the Bill Cosby of film making and he's taking this "stereo-typical" thing too far. As I recall in his younger years, he mad movies that had over-the-top typical Italians, Blacks, and Whites (Jungle Fever and Do The Right Thing). The difference is he did his as a form of art and Tyler does his for entertainment and a spiritual message. Its like Tyler is Jay-Z and Spike is Mos Def. Both are talented and creative they just have different was to express it. The thing I like about Tyler is he makes the movies that aren't stereotypical and foolish like The Family that Preys, Colored Girls, Why Did I Get Married, etc. Did Spike see those movies?? Or did all he see is Madea and is he hating on Tyler's box office numbers? I believe that there is a new generation of Blacks that are not preconsumed with being mis-represented because people are people and if someone from another race believes that Madea is all older Black women than thats their ignorance dammit! Our president is Black so we know every Black person isnt a coon and on Flava Flav mode.
ShavonDenise's picture

So you didn't think that "a

So you didn't think that "a family that preys" and "why did i get married" weren't stereotypical? Not saying your wrong i just feel like none of his films seem authentic. Like he throws together a story with a little drama and a lot of over-acting and calls it quality.
CheyPie's picture

I would say that Tyler is

I would say that Tyler is more like Soulja Boy: hot in the streets right now, but with no real talent or staying power. I don't even like Jay-Z like that, but to compare TP to him is a MAJOR insult. Jay-Z (or at least his success) has done a lot for rap; Tyler Perry has done nothing for black cinema but rape and profit from it.
Akimbo's picture

Sounds like U wish U would

Sounds like U wish U would have thought of it 1st..lol....
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Anonymous's picture

I do agree with some of what

I do agree with some of what Spike has said about the tone and tenor of Mr perry's movies! I simply choose not to Serbia movies to express my displeasure. I believe it adds yet another stereotype and stigma to blacks in general and specifically to black men. Why must the lead role be a black man in a dress thatcant seem to speak with any level of intelligence and normalcy!? The people that raised me and the people in my life don't speak or act that way. It's just unnecessary the story could be just as impactful without the ignorant behavior. I wonder if no blacks went to his movies if they would be commercially viable.
Anonymous's picture

Comedy???????

Comedy???????
Anonymous's picture

I do agree with some of what

I do agree with some of what Spike has said about the tone and tenor of Mr perry's movies! I simply choose not to Serbia movies to express my displeasure. I believe it adds yet another stereotype and stigma to blacks in general and specifically to black men. Why must the lead role be a black man in a dress thatcant seem to speak with any level of intelligence and normalcy!? The people that raised me and the people in my life don't speak or act that way. It's just unnecessary the story could be just as impactful without the ignorant behavior. I wonder if no blacks went to his movies if they would be commercially viable.
Anonymous's picture

spike only cares about people

spike only cares about people that make movies like he does. and if they don't and are more successful than him, then he will start acting like a child and start talking about them. he's been doing this for years and that's why Hollywood doesn't care about him anymore. he has the right to speak his mind but when he's wrong he can't admit to it.
fspikelee's picture

i agree with TP 100%. you can

i agree with TP 100%. you can find EVERY kind of movie with white actors by white directors/producers. people CHOOSE what they want to watch and disregard the rest. WE might never have CHOICES like that when it comes to movies because of the 'crabs in a barrel' mentality that too often surfaces when we see another black person is doing well (i.e. making more money/ getting more recognition). Last i checked, Spike was still in the business of making movies. if he feels that other types of movies/genres are not being represented, he could be part of the solution by making his contribution to our CURRENT choices.
Anonymous's picture

All of these movies are made

All of these movies are made for entertainment purposes only. Some of Tyler Perry's and Spike Lee movies SUCK and some are GOOD. At the end of the day its my money and I will go see whatever I want no matter what anyone says. I like to judge movies for myself. I applaud Tyler for building his own studio and doing it his way. Spike may have had to work harder to get his movies out but I do sense a little haterade going on. He as a fellow artist should congradulate him and keep it moving. All the negativity is not becoming. I want to see black people thrive in their gifts and not put each other down. Its time we lose the crabs in a barrel mentality. One man is from the North and the other is from the South. Two different men that I admire for reaching for their dreams and succeeding. They both inspire me.
Shining Star's picture

Now everyubody knows how bad

Now everyubody knows how bad Tyler perry movies are just look at the trailer to this movie...full of the most basic stereotypes of black men with baby mamas and coonerific families...yes tyler is employing a lot of black actors but for what cause??...Spike Lee made movies that you will show your kids, kids for them to learn about Black culture...now please tell me what Tyler Perry movie will you show your kids to give them insight of what being black means??.....Im Waiting
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