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Wale In ROLLING OUT Magazine: "There’s A Special Place In My Heart For Black Girls"

Wale puts his mind to work in a new interview for the latest issue of "ROLLING OUT" magazine.  During the in-depth convo, Wale's music career is likened to a game of chess and he reveals this time around, his strategy will help him achieve superstar status. 

Get the deets inside and find out why he loves dark "Pretty Girls."

“Ambition is the desire to be better than the people who came before you. It’s your obsession to be good or great. How great is your obsession to chase your dream?”–Wale

In 2008, Wale was expected to become a MAJOR star.  He was featured on a huge track with Waka Flocka, "No Hands" and had a good record deal with Interscope....however, the record stalled.

But don't expect his second disc, Ambition to suffer a similar fate.  Now that he's hooked up with Rick Ross and the Mayback Music Group, Wale is ready to surpass his fans expectations.

Before the release of your first album, you built an impressive buzz for yourself. So what caused the album to fail to meet the high expectations?
I put that on myself to get back to where I need to be. We’re working. I do music for my fans and family. My fans appreciated my first album. But my label didn’t ship it for whatever reason. I re-evaluated my life and my situation and now I’m in a different place. I found out a lot of artists can’t go to a city and do a show with 2,000 people. I’m blessed to have people who appreciate what I do.

So what is the biggest difference in being at MMG vs. being at Interscope?
The difference is freedom. I’m very in tune with urban culture. I felt my last situation wasn’t allowing me to grow with the urban culture. They saw a Lady Gaga opportunity and I went with it. I was a new artist and I didn’t get it. I thought I was being ignored by black America. It’s not as much money, but to connect with the people I grew up with is more important than connecting with pop fans. Even the white people who are familiar with my music deserve to hear what I’m really saying. I shouldn’t be marketed toward top 40. When I listen to my first album, you can hear who I am talking to. But I now have an opportunity to change that.

You have a lot of female fans. How important is it for you to balance the risque songs such as “No Hands” with inspirational tracks such as “Diary”?
I want to be an advocate for the women. I may say some wild things, but that’s our time to have fun. But I stand for fixing the world our way. Let’s add spice to this and change the world. I believe women should go to school to network with others who will change the world. I’m encouraging. I’m a part of the problem, but I want to be a part of the clean up. “No Hands” is the party and “Ambitious Girls” is the clean up. We can have fun, but I hope you’re getting up and going to class. I don’t want to get in the way of that. That [is] something you have to do. For two years, I had to walk around with about $15 in my account. That was my time. I left school and had to get on my grind. I was about 21. Now show me you can work the system for four or five years and continue to do your thing.

You caught flack from black women for not having dark-skinned females in your “Pretty Girls” video. How did that make you feel?
It wasn’t about that, but it showed me what I meant to the black culture. That made me realize that people hold me at a higher regard. That was when I knew I had to make a change. For “Pretty Girls,” I didn’t go on set until there were dark-skinned girls at the video shoot. I was waiting. The most horrible feeling in the world, was that my women think that I don’t care about them. I’d rather go broke than for my black women to think that I don’t care about them. I would rather lose everything than to have my queens think I’m turning my back on them. I was the only kid in my neighborhood with a father. And that’s because I’m African and they don’t divorce. It messed me up. When I was in Mississippi, a girl told me she had her first child at 16. So I made a song called “Illest B—- Alive.” There’s a special place in my heart for black girls. If you’re black and have a black mother, you know how special they are.

Beyond the physical, what is the most attractive thing about a woman?
I like girls who can get the intellect popping. Instead of liking me just because I rap, I like girls who can ask about where I was mentally when I thought of making a certain record. I can find a nice amount of girls who think I’m attractive or whatever, but intellect is very important. “Lotus Flower Bomb” was a record that I wanted to create a long time ago. I’m not sure if radio was ready for that at the time. That’s kind of an adult vibe. I was 23 when I was writing my first project. I was doing what I was told to do instead of doing what my heart told me to do.

 

More pics from the issue:

Determined to win the game of chess, Wale's Ambition drops on Tuesday.

Read more over at ROLLING OUT.
 

 

Photos via Corey Reese

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favour200's picture

This interview has inspired

This interview has inspired me even more as a fan. I have been a fan since "DC Gorillas" and I'm not turning back now. On the other hand, some of these comments are despicable. Does everything have to be about race or color ? Can't we just agree that he's beautiful because he has a beautiful heart and mind ? I feel that some of you would rather have a rapper disrespect you rather than lift you up, like Wale does. Beauty is not based on the outer appearance, it's what's on the inside that really counts. If you guys can't get that through your thick, media-washed, skull, then you have a lot of self evaluating to do. LOVE YOU WALE ! God Bless :)
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saw Wale in concert and loved

saw Wale in concert and loved it...really feeling his interview and what he said about black women!! you go boy!
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Anonymous's picture

Clone that man he is very

Clone that man he is very handsome and real.
Black Beauty's picture

Why are so many people in

Why are so many people in America so quick to claim a country that there parents left or they left because the country was horrible... Who cares if your from African Wale... your in America now... I bet you will not go to Nigeria to live... and that goes for all of the other fake country representatives... why don't you represent America because your parents country is now irrelevant ... they left because it sucked.... So in the future if someone reps another country and they were born and raised in America you will get deported
Pusha-d's picture

your ignorant. the real

your ignorant. the real question should be "why do people who are clearly black and clearly not originally of this country claim to be America and resent where they really are from?" You're probably black and is probably the first to say "im not african", but that is where your ancestors are from!!!! I am a proud nigerian american, and your statement right there is the reason why black people will never be able to move forward, because if you dont know where you came from, you will never know where you're going. Shame.
Anonymous's picture

Many Haitians are mixed but

Many Haitians are mixed but Majority are black. I do not understand if you had lighter skin in the Americas that is better like Dominicans always praising there "Slave Masters'' and many other Latin Countries and white wash history to make it seem whites were the best thing ever. I always tell them straight up I am so happy I am black because if I was mixed in those days. I would be considered a rape baby who wants to be a rape baby? Not me lol so to those light skin people are usually rape babies what special about that. Now a days those children wouldbe aborted if there had abortions during slavery.
Canadian Haitian Women's picture

Wale is beautiful person who

Wale is beautiful person who speaks beautiful words. He has become one of my favorite rappers in the game. #Ambition
bosschick's picture

I love Wale. He is real and

I love Wale. He is real and his music shows that. I play his music almost everyday.
Kierra's picture

Yes ma'am! I agree.

Yes ma'am! I agree.
Anonymous's picture

#ambition that is all...

#ambition that is all...
Love Jahh's picture

He just has to remain

He just has to remain conscious!! and not follow all this self hating African American men, the are sooo knee deep in self hate, they dont even know it.... how can u not relate the beauty of your mother or sister in the woman, U want too bear your kids.... They are interested in loving whores, gold diggers e.t.c. disgustingly the new trend is rapping about how beautiful latin chick are, asians , whites e.t.c. African american men are worse than dumb... they are scums
Anonymous's picture

Spanish is not a race

Spanish is not a race ,speaking Spanish doesn't make you Spanish. Spanish people are from Spain and majority of White Europeans. Americans are not called English just because your language is English Gee why are Americans so dumb There's a difference between race and Nationality Spain was one of the countries who took part in the slave trade.
Anonymous's picture

newflash......no one cares

newflash......no one cares about spain/nor its people/origin etc so girl bye
HerHawtness's picture

i went to get his cd 2day and

i went to get his cd 2day and its pretty good not to mention there was a line well then again I am from the DMV so we going to support him anyway s/n I just know somebody will ask me... DMV stands for D.C(District of Columbia), Maryland and Virginia
Anonymous89 aka Sitting Pretty's picture

Why does it seem like this

Why does it seem like this guy is always talking about race? Addressing it once, nice, ok. Addressing it 15 times in every interview? Annoying.
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wterfr's picture

i luv this man. he is extra

i luv this man. he is extra sexy f*** u haters! Wale u can get it believe that!
Anonymous's picture

luv this man.. always have

luv this man.. always have but he just moved up a knotch.. as far as im concerned we need more like him!!!!! #realtalk#
Anonymous's picture

sorry i have no place for you

sorry i have no place for you
Anonymous's picture

Wale is hideous. He needs to

Wale is hideous. He needs to invest in some lotion. He looks like a straight up ash tray like he was playing in sand. OMG I hope he does not flip or shake his dreads, GOD knows what is hiding in there. Lay off the weed, bc weed does not help either. NO THANKS!!!! I'll pass any day and he is just guilty thats why he is putting out this statement. His mother and sister are black as charcoal they probably got in his azz. He should know better with his fake azz. Whoever would be interested in him or give him the goods better check into a clinic and seek help bc he is a dusty ugly bunny.
Anonymous's picture

you just sound so ignorant do

you just sound so ignorant do us a favor #killyourself
Anonymous89 aka Sitting Pretty's picture

I agree. That Nutso is

I agree. That Nutso is ignorant and sick. Wale is3 awesome is ambition is amazing!!!
bosschick's picture

Wow. That was harsh! All that

Wow. That was harsh! All that for someone who has no idea you exist! Smh
Anonymous's picture

hate much?

hate much?
Anonymous's picture

much respect wale...even

much respect wale...even without this interview!!!
holla06's picture

I JUST BECAME A WALE

I JUST BECAME A WALE FAN!!!!...WISH WE HAD MORE LIKE HIM!
smartblackgirl's picture

" I was the only kid in my

" I was the only kid in my neighborhood with a father. And that’s because I’m African and they don’t divorce" *airhorn* Fist in the air
Diddy is the devil's picture

A lil money really work

A lil money really work wonders, he looks a far cry from when he first came on the scene, what a change.
Mabel's picture

didn't wale say he doesn't

didn't wale say he doesn't like dark girls. Whatever.
Philia's picture

I think you are talking about

I think you are talking about Yung Berg Wale have NEVER said he didnt like dark girls!
Anonymous89 aka Sitting Pretty's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

I UNDERSTAND WHAT U SAID AND

I UNDERSTAND WHAT U SAID AND I AGREE 100%!
smartblackgirl's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

It's nice he mentioned that

It's nice he mentioned that since most of the videos are quite the contrary. Since I'm talking about black women in videos, I like the fact that J Cole utilizes a lot of black women for his videos. LOVE HIM FOR THAT!!!
Happy Lady's picture

Agree!....but he's new on the

Agree!....but he's new on the scene so time will tell if that continues...i'm always mistakent for "non-black" (which pisses me off ) but it seems i'm the type that these self-haters love, but I hope J Cole keeps it up!
smartblackgirl's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE

FIRST OF ALL I DID WAS STATE MY OWN OPINION AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE BUT WHOEVER WAS OFFENDED BY WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION I MAY HAVE MISPELLED A FEW WORDS BUT IM NOT STUPID I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND I JUST LOVE MY BLACK PPL AND WANTED TO EXPRESS IT THATS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNHAPPY ABOUT BS I STAND BY WHAT I SAID IT WAS MY OBSERVATION IF U DONT AGREE THATS FINE BUT U CAN'T JUDGE ME MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF SINCE U WRAPPED UP IN HOW "NECY" FEEL
Necy's picture

Wale is UGLY! I don't get

Wale is UGLY! I don't get these "he is handsome" comments. Wale looks dusty and he acts like a female. NO thanks. Rappers are not to be taken seriously when you ask them their views on women. It's very clear that Hip Hop is very BIG on Misogyny and Self hate. If a woman needs a rapper to feel good about who they are they are in TROUBLE. Wale like any man can like any woman HE likes. He does not have to like dark-skinned girls if that is not his choice. Women need to deal with bigger issues than things like this. Seriously.
Furious_FoX@Rih.NAVY.com's picture

Lord the typos continue. I

Lord the typos continue. I can't even understand half of the ybf post any more. Please get it together, I really don't want to go to another site, but can't stick around for these phoned in blogs much longer.
Anonymous's picture

Well I must give him some

Well I must give him some credit. I watched the last BET Awards and I heard several references to my "spanish chick" etc. But there were none about black women, so I give him some credit in a business that seems to have no love for black women he does. I think black men (or any men for that matter) who have a preference for something (or someone) just because it doesn't look like them need therapy-and lots of it.
syl's picture

They can keep their "Spanish

They can keep their "Spanish chicks" shout outs, since 97% of rap music speaks of women in such a degrading, defiling, derogatory manner. The videos also portray women in quite a misogynistic light. Black women shouldn't be so eager to be a part of such foolishness (all conscious rappers excluded.... y'know, that 3%).
muomuo's picture

AGREE!!!!!...but most girls

AGREE!!!!!...but most girls my age are so ignorant and will vote these videos on 106 everyday!...It starts in the home, i'm always mistaken for non-black but my mom who looks totally NON-black raised me to be proud to be a blackgirl!
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