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  • FAMILY AFFAIRS: The Berry-Aubreys Hit The Beach+The Smiths Go To China

    Written by Natasha - Last updated: Wednesday, July 8, 2009

    Get ready for cuteness overload:


    Mama Halle, Baby Nahla, and Daddy Gabe are still vacaying it up in Miami.  And they just hit the beach to soak in some sun and the ocean.   Looks like a certain tiny somebody is already ready for her closeup.

    And the Smiths have headed to China:

    A newly bald Will, Jada, and son Jaden all treked over the Pacific Ocean for Jaden’s upcoming Karate Kid movie.  How can we not love watching fab family time?

    More cuteness when you read the rest…

    That swimsuit is just too precious.  Nahla’s worn out and I’m sure mom and dad are too.

    More pics of the Smiths:

    Wonder what made Willy want to go bald….

    Pics: Splash News
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    Filed in Baby Fab, Candids, Celeb Parents, I Need A Vacation! •

    102 Comments »

    1. posted by nba961

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:14 PM

      Nahla is too damn cute!

    2. posted by Foley.

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:15 PM

      NICE!!! Everyone looks great

    3. posted by jenn

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:15 PM

      Nahla is gorgeous! With parents like that you know that girl is going to be a knock out when she grows up, breaking all the boys hearts. Love it.

    4. posted by moerytz

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:16 PM

      m first! Yey….Nalle looks cute and baby even cuter

    5. posted by Tabby

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:16 PM

      Will is trying to hide that grey hair.

    6. posted by Foley.

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:16 PM

      Look at Nahla’s skin….just gorgeous!! I love babies skin, lol

    7. posted by MeeYow

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:18 PM

      Note to Will Smith: The bald look is NOT for everyone.

    8. posted by MeeYow

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:19 PM

      In other news…Nahla is just so precious! I have a feeling we will see her up on the big screen soon.

    9. posted by MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama's #1 Stan

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:19 PM

      Wendy is saying that Stevie Wonders’ daughter who happens to be Robert from Day 26 tried to kill herself.

    10. posted by MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama's #1 Stan

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:21 PM

      Wendy is saying that Stevie Wonders’ daughter who happens to be Robert from Day 26’s girlfriend tried to kill herself.

    11. posted by allie

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:22 PM

      my mother-in-law keeps pressuring me to have a baby (been married for 8 months) and nahla is almost making me want to skip some birth control pills. she is way too cute.

    12. posted by lipstiick, bitchin since 1985

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:23 PM

      I love fab families….gives me about 5 more years to have one!

    13. posted by Fo' Sho

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:23 PM

      Nahla gets cuter everytime I see her. She’s gonna be a real beauty just like Mom.

      Btw, that website that starts with T and ends with Z is reporting that the Medical Examiner concluded that Donovan M’s jum-off, the Sahel chick was the one who fired the gun found with the bodies. Hope that coochie was worth it!

    14. posted by Shelley

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:25 PM

      If they ever make a Boondocks movie with real people – Little Jaden should play Riley!!

    15. posted by minnie

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:26 PM

      i love jada in the show ‘hawthorne’

    16. posted by nba961

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:27 PM

      Son-of-a-bitch…I’m first! I thought it was going to be a cold day in hell before I was blessed with the 1st spot. I would like to thank all of the YBFers for being too damn slow to post. God bless the chil’ren and have a good day!

    17. posted by L

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:28 PM

      Fo’Sho…your an idiot..its STEVE MCNAIR not DONOVAN MCNABB…lmao..wowzers…

      Nahla ia absolutely gorgeous & is growing up so quick!!
      Jayden is a handsome little man too!

    18. posted by Be@uty !s My Name

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:28 PM

      MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama’s #1 Stan

      what? where you hear this? why is she with Robert? Is that why she tried to kill herself?!?!

    19. posted by binky

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:30 PM

      Wow, Nahla is way to cute for words. She seems like a handful running around like that no wonder they hold her so much, so adorable. Halle and Gabe look like good parents and they seem to mesh together, and the little one is happy. *But secretly drooling over Gabe* The Smiths are just fab everywhere they go, I wonder if Will is making a sequal to one of his movie, wasn’t he bald in I’ am legend? And Trey is almost taller than mom, he cutie too

    20. posted by livindadream

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:30 PM

      Hey Nahla – my 17-month old son thinks you are cuuute! How precious is she. I love seeing Halle’s motherhood glow. You can definitely tell that she’s happy.

    21. posted by binky

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:31 PM

      Oops, I meant Jaden not Trey

    22. posted by MrsB32

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:31 PM

      Awwwwwwww, that Nahla is so cute. I love that picture of her with the shades.

      Will Smith is sexy with or without a bald head.

    23. posted by Foley.

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:34 PM

      Be@uty !s My Name: MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama’s #1 Stanwhat? where you hear this? why is she with Robert? Is that why she tried to kill herself?!?!

      Because she found out he was fucking a man.

    24. posted by Be@uty !s My Name

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:35 PM

      Will is not looking good here, I THOUGHT he could pull of anything, not that bald head!

      Nahla looks so cute..ready to start my fam.
      I will find out today if I have a bun in the oven!!!

    25. posted by Sha from Da Brook

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:36 PM

      Little girl is cute but why does it look like she has on a toupee lol

    26. posted by Be@uty !s My Name

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:38 PM

      Foley.: Because she found out he was fucking a man.

      HMM that does sound about right, but I thought he was engaged to something else

    27. posted by nba961

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:38 PM

      @Les…WHAT?! Robert is not the type to kill yourself over. If you’re going to kill yourself over someone make sure it’s someone like…IDK…Idris, Denzel or maybe even Morgan Freeman. SMH!

    28. posted by LOVE MS HALLE & FAMILY

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:40 PM

      HALLE’S BABY IS ADORABLE. THEY LOOK SO HAPPY.

    29. posted by Chica

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:46 PM

      Nahla is such a cute lil girl! That bathing suit is precious! Daddy is fine and mommy is gorgeous!

    30. posted by tRaCi

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:48 PM

      some women just have all the luck….nahla is toooo cute in her lil swim suit….

    31. posted by Poked In the Morning...

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:49 PM

      please tell me that is a remote control in Will’s pocket!

    32. posted by MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama's #1 Stan

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:49 PM

      Be@uty !s My Name: MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama’s #1 Stanwhat? where you hear this? why is she with Robert? Is that why she tried to kill herself?!?!

      what? She tried to kill herself
      where you hear this? on the Wendy Williams’ show
      why is she with Robert? cuz she’s hard up, i dunno
      Is that why she tried to kill herself? I would think so

    33. posted by tRaCi

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:53 PM

      Poked In the Morning…: please tell me that is a remote control in Will’s pocket!

      toooooo funnnnyyyyy LOL…never saw it…..wow if it’s not..i had to scroll back up….

    34. posted by Tonya-Are my Titties Sweating??

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:53 PM

      I’ve never dated a white man and I never will-Because I’m married….That Gabe is one fine man, GeeZ!

    35. posted by Poked In the Morning...

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:54 PM

      nba961: @Les…WHAT?! Robert is not the type to kill yourself over. If you’re going to kill yourself over someone make sure it’s someone like…IDK…Idris, Denzel or maybe even Morgan Freeman. SMH!

      seriously. and you stevie wonder’s daughter, meaning you have access to all the handsome young men in hollywood. I would even take that black dude from High school musical.

      But robert? who sounded like Michael Jackson on a high note when he cried?? GTFOH

    36. posted by jenn

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:58 PM

      mmmhmmm. now we see more to why they have such a long lasting marriage… go ‘head then will.

    37. posted by Yas

      Wed, July 8, 2009 2:58 PM

      LOL Halle ready to fight some paps, such a beautiful fam.

      The Smith family look like a power hungry, we shall not lose, ready for war kind of fam. :)

    38. posted by *insert screenname here*

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:14 PM

      Its almost as if Nahla can hear the bloggers talking. In the last post someone said “Doesn’t Nahla ever walk, Halle and Gabe are always holding her” and in this post she is running like “b*tch now what”? LMAO!!!

      Will look mean in these pictures…but he still fine.

      All in all…two beautiful black (and a half) families…got to love it :)

    39. posted by Damn Shame

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:14 PM

      Halle and fam are too cute. Gabe is one fine man. Love the Smiths.

    40. posted by *insert screenname here*

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:15 PM

      Poked In the Morning…: please tell me that is a remote control in Will’s pocket!

      LMAO!!! I didn’t even notice that at first.

    41. posted by ashleigh

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:18 PM

      a) GABRIEL IS SO DAMN FINE HOLY SNAPS!!!!!!
      b) nahla looks so much like halle it aint funny.
      c) in the second last pic of will…WHAT IN GODS NAME IS IN HIS SHORTS?!?!!?…don’t get me all excited…
      d)JADEN CUT YOUR HAIR!!!! males and braids went out of style with b2k…

      ps GABRIEL IS A SEXY MOFO!!!

    42. posted by ashleigh

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:20 PM

      *insert screenname here*: Its almost as if Nahla can hear the bloggers talking. In the last post someone said “Doesn’t Nahla ever walk, Halle and Gabe are always holding her” and in this post she is running like “b*tch now what”? LMAO!!!Will look mean in these pictures…but he still fine.All in all…two beautiful black (and a half) families…got to love it

      ahahahahaha lmao. she’s all take that mutha suckaz. stick that in your sippy cup and suk it. LOL

    43. posted by TRUTHHURTS

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:20 PM

      Halle daughter is just a cutie pototie, & it’s nice to see the fam at the beach,& the smiths how can you say a bad thing about them. & I would date a white man if i can find one just like miss Halle.lol

    44. posted by *insert screenname here*

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:20 PM

      nba961: Son-of-a-bitch…I’m first! I thought it was going to be a cold day in hell before I was blessed with the 1st spot. I would like to thank all of the YBFers for being too damn slow to post. God bless the chil’ren and have a good day!

      *dead* at you claiming 1st and you are like #19..not even close. But I aint mad at you girl, do you.

    45. posted by *insert screenname here*

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:22 PM

      ashleigh: ahahahahaha lmao. she’s all take that mutha suckaz. stick that in your sippy cup and suk it. LOL

      LMAO @ “stick that in your sippy cup”!

    46. posted by MrsB32

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:22 PM

      Poked In the Morning…: please tell me that is a remote control in Will’s pocket!

      That ain’t no damn remote, WOW! OMG! DAMN!

    47. posted by Tonya-Are my Titties Sweating??

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:24 PM

      Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm WILL!!!
      Go ahead then Mrs. Jada!

    48. posted by M. DOT

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:27 PM

      Nahla definitely looks like Halle’s mom…especially the eyes

    49. posted by Delusional

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:35 PM

      Be@uty !s My Name: MRS les923 ELBA ~ Obama’s #1 Stanwhat? where you hear this? why is she with Robert? Is that why she tried to kill herself?!?!

      Attempted suicide is not funny but your comment shole is LMFAO!!

    50. posted by eva

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:36 PM

      Halle’s baby is so adorable so cute, and I am loving the mimi adverts I hope I look half as good when I am her age

    51. posted by OK OK OK I'm a grandma, there I said it :)

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:39 PM

      OMG!!! what is dat in Will’s shorts?

    52. posted by MiMi

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:42 PM

      nba961: With parents like that you know that girl is going to be a knock out when she grows up, breaking all the boys hearts

      Heard this morning that Morgan freeman is planning to propose to hi “step”-grand daughter. So no, not him either.

    53. posted by Asea

      Wed, July 8, 2009 3:53 PM

      Nahla is so frikkin cute!

      And her Daddy is FINE!

    54. posted by Honesty

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:03 PM

      *insert screenname here*: Its almost as if Nahla can hear the bloggers talking. In the last post someone said “Doesn’t Nahla ever walk, Halle and Gabe are always holding her” and in this post she is running like “b*tch now what”? LMAO!!!Will look mean in these pictures…but he still fine.All in all…two beautiful black (and a half) families…got to love it

      LMAO!!!!! So right!! She is so freaking cute!! I would love to hear her talk, but I know Halle ain’t putting her in the limelight like that intentionally anyway!!! I’m so happy for Halle. She truly seems happy has has looked that way for the past 3 years!! Gabriel is….whooo…..HOTTT!!! LOL! It’s funny seeing a little Halle though. HaHa

      Happy to see the Smiths!

    55. posted by Honesty

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:08 PM

      Shelley: If they ever make a Boondocks movie with real people – Little Jaden should play Riley!!

      HAAA!! Yep

    56. posted by Honesty

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:11 PM

      Be@uty !s My Name: Will is not looking good here, I THOUGHT he could pull of anything, not that bald head! Nahla looks so cute..ready to start my fam.I will find out today if I have a bun in the oven!!!

      How exciting!!!

    57. posted by keki!....micheal jackson waz livin' art!!!!!!

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:23 PM

      nahla is ad0rable, she l00kz jus like her dad….nice family!!! luv the smiths als0….

    58. posted by HaveAHart

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:34 PM

      Awww Nahla is so Adorable!!! I bet she has Halle & Daddy wrapped around her little fingers!! Jaden looks just like a little Will. Too cute!

    59. posted by hatin me wont make upretty

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:49 PM

      Haha She

      Shelley: If they ever make a Boondocks movie with real people – Little Jaden should play Riley!!

      Ahaha Damn he does look like Riley in those pics. I love the Smiths, but why are they always leaving Jade at home. Just cause she isn’t as cute as Jaden, doesn’t mean they have to play her

    60. posted by Food for thought

      Wed, July 8, 2009 4:59 PM

      Nahla looks like the little girl on the water babies sunblock bottle. All she needs is a little dog pulling down her suit…so ca-yute!!

    61. posted by Will E. Johnson

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:04 PM

      Nahla is adorable, i need to find a woman to create children that pop out photogenic. Will just got the cut fresh, you can see the tan line, a soon as tans, y’all will be all over him again

    62. posted by gitie

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:05 PM

      AWWWWWWWW, Nahla is soo cute! she reminds me of my baby Nadia!

    63. posted by Miz Pride & Joy

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:06 PM

      OMG!!!!! BIG “WILLIE” in da house!!!!!! ahahahahahahahha

    64. posted by SIMONE LOVE

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:11 PM

      CUTE BABY!!! I didn’t realize she was so big because they’re always holding her..

    65. posted by Eva

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:26 PM

      Damn, Halle’s family is lovely. Even their bubbles are perfect. Lol.

    66. posted by kathy

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:46 PM

      I just loveeee me some will.

    67. posted by Yes, I'm in it...

      Wed, July 8, 2009 5:50 PM

      It’s so wonderful to see the Smith’s doing the damn thing…Rearing the next generation of the Smith’s clan. It is too awesome that’s Jayden is doing the remake of the Karate Kid…wait is he the lead?…I wouldn’t be surprised if Will and Jada’s Production company Executive Produced this movie…So good just to see a tight Black family

    68. posted by Tiffany

      Wed, July 8, 2009 6:17 PM

      You can clearly see Mr. Smith’s print in his shorts.

    69. posted by Southerngul

      Wed, July 8, 2009 6:19 PM

      tRaCi:
      toooooo funnnnyyyyy LOL…never saw it…..wow if it’s not..i had to scroll back up….

      LMBO…wow didn’t notice that…hard to tell..good eye!

    70. posted by R

      Wed, July 8, 2009 6:41 PM

      Halle and her fam are gorgeous indeed, but there’s just one minor miniscule thing. Gabe rarely is seen holding Nahla and in that pic where she’s looking up at him, maybe it’s me but I don’t see the daughter- father chemistry.

      Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it, I don’t see that bond between them. With Halle deinately but not him.

      The Smith’s are another upstanding family in the entertainment biz. Jayden should cut his hair, it’s about time. It’s all good otherwise though.

    71. posted by Trish

      Wed, July 8, 2009 6:44 PM

      Oh! Mr. Smith that looks sooooo….. good I had to look twice. Real nice!

    72. posted by CIRESLADYONE

      Wed, July 8, 2009 7:02 PM

      Be@uty !s My Name: HMM that does sound about right, but I thought he was engaged to something else

      ERIC – PRIVACY BACK PLEASE – I am Sick & Tired of These COPYCAT WANNABEES

    73. posted by HOTNESS

      Wed, July 8, 2009 7:02 PM

      Nahla is too freaking pretty for words. It is amazing how genetics work b/c she looks more blk even though her mama is half. Gorgeous family.

      I love love love the Smith’s. They r a wonderful family.

    74. posted by CIRESLADYONE

      Wed, July 8, 2009 7:03 PM

      R: Halle and her fam are gorgeous indeed, but there’s just one minor miniscule thing. Gabe rarely is seen holding Nahla and in that pic where she’s looking up at him, maybe it’s me but I don’t see the daughter- father chemistry.Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it, I don’t see that bond between them. With Halle deinately but not him.The Smith’s are another upstanding family in the entertainment biz. Jayden should cut his hair, it’s about time. It’s all good otherwise though.

      GORGEOUS ONE

    75. posted by CIRESLADYONE

      Wed, July 8, 2009 7:04 PM

      I Despise WANNABEES.

    76. posted by actingbetty

      Wed, July 8, 2009 7:35 PM

      YES NAHLA IS ADORABLE HAPPY FAMILY HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY

    77. posted by MiSS BRiTKNEE

      Wed, July 8, 2009 8:01 PM

      Poked In the Morning…: please tell me that is a remote control in Will’s pocket!

      I Was Thinking It Was Roll Of Quarters…. Either Way…. Congrats Jada!!

    78. posted by MissCaramel

      Wed, July 8, 2009 8:29 PM

      Nahla is simply the cutest!

    79. posted by Debbie

      Wed, July 8, 2009 9:33 PM

      Nahla is going to be really tall like her dad. Halle has been wearing overly large dresses lately, I wonder if she’s pregnant but wants a bit more time to pass before she verifies it.

    80. posted by d.

      Wed, July 8, 2009 10:17 PM

      Shelley: If they ever make a Boondocks movie with real people – Little Jaden should play Riley!!

      I was just thinking, “he sure does look like Riley”. LOL!

    81. posted by essbreezy

      Wed, July 8, 2009 11:39 PM

      Good lawd, damn the “Halle Berry,” somebody needs to make a “Gabriel Aubrey” song. His ass is foinnnnnne!

    82. posted by litalicious

      Thu, July 9, 2009 9:08 AM

      Will must be carrying a sausage link in his pocket, just in case he gets hungry.

    83. posted by mlove

      Thu, July 9, 2009 9:25 AM

      R: Halle and her fam are gorgeous indeed, but there’s just one minor miniscule thing. Gabe rarely is seen holding Nahla and in that pic where she’s looking up at him, maybe it’s me but I don’t see the daughter- father chemistry.Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it, I don’t see that bond between them. With Halle deinately but not him.The Smith’s are another upstanding family in the entertainment biz. Jayden should cut his hair, it’s about time. It’s all good otherwise though.

      i guess you are the only 1 that cant see the 2nd picture were they are all in the water and the picture were were he is lifting nahla up in the water. what other father and daughter bond cant you see or isnt vicible enough for you and yea some post about a month ago wen dey were goin to the park and he was CARRYING isnt enough father and daughter bond. please dont read meaning were theres none and have it at the back of your mind that halle is in r 40s and this is are 1st child and has evri reason to be connected with are cos most mothers are always connected 2 their kids, and gabby is in his 30s and is a man and has many more years ahead of him 2 have more kid.

    84. posted by My my

      Thu, July 9, 2009 9:38 AM

      Poked In the Morning…: please tell me that is a remote control in Will’s pocket!

      LOL
      Wow i didn’t notice that!
      U have good eyes

    85. posted by JRS

      Thu, July 9, 2009 10:12 AM

      Nahla is beautiful.
      Will looks like a cancer patient with that bald head.

    86. posted by nlwilliams

      Thu, July 9, 2009 10:42 AM

      R: Halle and her fam are gorgeous indeed, but there’s just one minor miniscule thing. Gabe rarely is seen holding Nahla and in that pic where she’s looking up at him, maybe it’s me but I don’t see the daughter- father chemistry.Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it, I don’t see that bond between them. With Halle deinately but not him.The Smith’s are another upstanding family in the entertainment biz. Jayden should cut his hair, it’s about time. It’s all good otherwise though.

      WTH are you talking about?? How are you getting all of that out of one picture!! Ummm… no!!

    87. posted by CoOwner With Ciroc Obama

      Thu, July 9, 2009 10:55 AM

      Jaden looks like the kid from the Boondocks with those braids in his hair.

      i’m praying that’s a remote or cell phone in Will’s pocket or Jada’s a very happy woman!

      Nahla’s too cute for words and i love family time

    88. posted by BoxSpotter

      Thu, July 9, 2009 2:32 PM

      Damn…I bet y’all could use that baby-arm in WILL SMITH’s pants to HITCH a ride to China dn back !!!
      GOOD LAWD !!!

    89. posted by L.N.D.N Born & Raised

      Thu, July 9, 2009 5:13 PM

      Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!

      I been reading this site for a few years and never commented.

      But Will………………

      He never really did it for me but i’m gona have to look at him in a new light……………….

      Need that in my life……..!!!!!!!!!!!

    90. posted by Shola

      Sat, July 11, 2009 3:39 PM

      *insert screenname here*: Its almost as if Nahla can hear the bloggers talking. In the last post someone said “Doesn’t Nahla ever walk, Halle and Gabe are always holding her” and in this post she is running like “b*tch now what”? LMAO!!!Will look mean in these pictures…but he still fine.All in all…two beautiful black (and a half) families…got to love it

      What are you talking about. There’s only one black family (the Smiths), and there’s one white-ish family. Halle’s family is not a black and a half family, it’s a white-ish family.
      Halle is only and will always be HALF black no matter what nonsense she says. Here in London being half black is NOT considered the same as being a real black person; it is called being mixed race.
      Also because her baby’s father is white, the child is 3/4 white and ONLY 1/4 black, the child would be considered by most people as white (, a very small amount of people might recognise her as mixed race but hardly any).
      Halle doesn’t even look black let alone her (even less black than her) child – her child looks white. When the child is older she will look like any other pretty white chick – I know this because my friend is 1/4 Nigerian and 3/4 English and she looks white and is considered white by everyone including herself.
      I’m not racist – I have no hate for mixed race people, but, and this is a big BUT; it’s about time people stop calling mixed race people black and bunching them in the same catogory as black people because they are NOT black. They are no more black than most Latinas, Asians and so forth. Straight up that is the truth.

    91. posted by Shola

      Sat, July 11, 2009 3:49 PM

      BTW:
      This is SHOLA here tellin’ it like it is.

    92. posted by Lita

      Sat, July 11, 2009 5:40 PM

      @Shola

      As a fellow Londoner I have a lot of problems with what you’re saying. For one thing, if Halle self-identifies as black, you have no right to say otherwise. Mixed raced people are only now being recognised and accepted by the white majority both here and in the US- their experiences will often be similar, if not the same as us black folk. Of course all parts of a person should be acknowledged, but if your 1/4 Nigerian friend looked black, lived only with Nigerian people and been only around Nigerian culture, what would happen? It ain’t as simple as you’re making it seem.

      P.S. Latinos are a mixture of all races. You get black latinos, white latinos, etc.

    93. posted by Shola

      Sun, July 12, 2009 1:15 PM

      @ Lita

      First of all, when I said mixed race people are no more black than Latinos, I never said Latinos as a whole, I said MOST Latinos – obviosly the black Latino ones weren’t included in that MOST. I know that Latino people come in all different types.
      Also, you completely didn’t understand me on the whole Nigerian/English/quadroon friend I mentioned. I am not talking about culture at all. A lot of people (including yourself evidently) make the futile error of mistaking culture and race for the same thing. CULTURE and RACE are NOT one in THE SAME at all!
      Continuing with the friend I mentinoed – it IS as simple as I am making it seem.
      You asked, “if your 1/4 Nigerian friend looked black, lived only with Nigerian people and been only around Nigerian culture, what would happen? It ain’t as simple as you’re making it seem.”
      This is a silly/basic minded question which has no foundation. I will tell you why and in doing so I will also be answering it.
      FACT:If my 1/4 Nigerian+3/4 English friend only lived with Nigerian people and, had only ever been around Nigerian culture, they would be Nigerian cultured yes, BUT, and here is the big BUT, race wise they would be mixed race, mostly white. Hardly black at all. ( Notice how I didn’t even address where you said “and looked black,” this is because it is highly unlikely that a person who is 1/4 black and 3/4 white would look black at all! That is a fact! They might look mediterranean/olive skinned caucasian.)

      As for where you said, “if Halle self-identifies as black, you have no right to say otherwise…”
      I do not doubt that Halle does indentify as black because culturally she probably is black African-American. Racially she is not and will never be black. This goes for all mixed-race people, regardless of where they are in the world. Regardless of their experiences.

      As I said earlier culture and race are not the same thing. RACE is pre-determined before you are even born.
      Whereas a person’s CULTURE stems from the environment they grew up in. Example: A white person can be black cultured but racially, they ARE and will always be white, and vice versa!
      Culture wise anyone can be whatever they want; however most people will probably be the culture of the household the grew up in (Example:black people can even be Chinese cultured) – race on the other hand is written in stone. Race is final and people do not have a say, you are what ever race you were born as and will be till the day you die.

      P.S. So you see Lita, it is as simple as I am making it seem and if you can’t see that then there is obviously something wrong with your brain.

      This is SHOLA here tellin’ it like it is!

    94. posted by Jelly

      Sun, July 12, 2009 3:04 PM

      Wow, I can’t believe how fast Nahla has grown! She’s very cute.

    95. posted by wifey06

      Mon, July 13, 2009 1:30 PM

      WHY IS SHE FAKING WITH A RING ON THE LEFT HAND?

      KEEP IT REAL HALLE.

      I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WON’T MARRY AGAIN BUT SAVE THE FAKING FOR THE CAMERA!!!!!!!

    96. posted by Honesty

      Mon, July 13, 2009 5:33 PM

      wifey06: WHY IS SHE FAKING WITH A RING ON THE LEFT HAND? KEEP IT REAL HALLE. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WON’T MARRY AGAIN BUT SAVE THE FAKING FOR THE CAMERA!!!!!!!

      I wear a ring on my ring finger!!! I’m not engaged. Just do it because I want to. I’m sure she is NOT worried about what people think of her!

    97. posted by Haliewa

      Wed, July 15, 2009 3:02 AM

      A bull-shit splitting of hairs. Get over yourself.

      Shola:
      Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it, I don’t see that bond

    98. posted by Rachel

      Thu, July 16, 2009 11:35 AM

      I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS THOUGHT HALLE WOULD HAVE A BABY!!!!!!!

    99. posted by Lita

      Fri, July 17, 2009 10:58 PM

      And this is my problem- how do you define race? Admittedly its unlikely that the quarter Nigerian friend would look black, but it sure as hell isn’t impossible. The problem black people (specifically in Europe and America) have had is this ridulously narrow definition of ourselves according to colour. This pernicious ideology spread itself to several colonies, but naturally, people would have identified with nationality or culture (judging by your name, you, like me are a Nigerian, and would identify as such) and by default would have fit into a ‘race’. Considering the history of most blacks (and whites) in the US, you may want to say that noone is black. That Beyonce isn’t black because she’s part creole, that Keisha Cole isn’t black etc etc. Similarly none is white (consider Anatole Broyard). Race is basically an arbitrary distinction based on phenotype and recent ancestry and so completely flawed.

      One more note: for political reasons I am proud to be black and understand and support the black struggle. My problem, is there should never have been an subjugation based on race in the first place.

    100. posted by Lita

      Fri, July 17, 2009 11:03 PM

      unless u can say by looking at a lightskinned black person and a dark skinned mixed person which is which, defining people this way is entirely pointless.

    101. posted by halles#1fan

      Mon, July 20, 2009 8:53 PM

      Well Shola, here in AMERICA there is something called a one drop rule, which says “If you have one drop of Black blood in your body, then you are Black.” Know the full history before you start running off at the mouth!!!!

    102. posted by Shola

      Wed, July 29, 2009 6:51 PM

      halles#1fan: Well Shola, here in AMERICA there is something called a one drop rule, which says “If you have one drop of Black blood in your body, then you are Black.” Know the full history before you start running off at the mouth!!!!

      @ Halles#1fan AND @ Lita
      Listen here you – firstly; ‘running off at the mouth’ who the h.e.l.l. are you. Before you try and get rude I know a lot about American history – probably more than you, from what you’ve said you seem igonarant.
      As for what you were saying about the one drop rule – that is so outdated. That rule was created by racist white American people way back when to keep everybody who wasn’t completely like them surpressed in some way shape or form. The rule is outdated, ignorant and insulting – it infers that blackness takes precedence over any other race in a person. Whilst not congratulating the social hardships that have occured in South Africa, one must appreciate how (not why, but how) they define their people with truth and clear eyes: WHITE, BLACK, AND COLOURED!!!

      Lita, from what you wrote in your reply it seems that you do not read my replies in their entirety – you just pick parts here and there so that you can disagree and make sense at the same time because you know that if you were to take my whole text into account when replying you would not be able to disagree. I did not say that my 1/4 Nigerian could not look black, I said it was very unlikely.
      Also the definition I gave of race was not at all based on skin colour – if you had read my post properly you would know this.
      RACE (black – from reading this definition you can deduce how to define other races not just black):If both your parents are black (BOTH) you are black. If one of your parents is black and the other is NOT BLACK – you are NOT BLACK, you are mixed race/coloured.

      FYI Beyonce is not black because her mother isn’t – Beyonce is mixed race/coloured. Yes, she is part black but she is also other things too (European). It is irritating that people think blackness takes precedence over every other race in a person – that is such an outdated silly way of thinking! (If Halle Berry can be called ‘black woman’ then she can be called ‘white woman’, because she is just as much white as she is black and blackness DOES NOT take precedence over every other race in a person!) As for Anatole Broyard – no one said he was white. He didn’t even say he was white so what are you on about he is creole/coloured/mixed race – chose your adjective as you feel fit. As for keyshia Cole, I have no idea what she because I don’t know what race her biological father is and by the sounds of it neither does her mother Frankie.

      Lita, you said ‘My problem, is there should never have been an subjugation based on race in the first place.’ Why would you even waste time writing that. Of course there should never have been – that’s why slavery in America and apartheid in South Africa were abolished – DUH!! You are so behind.

      Lita, you also said, ‘…but naturally, people would have identified with nationality or culture (judging by your name, you, like me are a Nigerian, and would identify as such) and by default would have fit into a ‘race’…’
      Not only is your staement wrong but you have used the 3 different words:nationality; culture; and race as if they have the same meaning. They do not.
      You are correct in saying that I am Nigerian and I do identify as such – culturally I am Nigerian. You said that because of this by default I would fit into a ‘race’. You are completely wrong in saying this. Just because a person identifies with a certain culture or is a certain nationality that is nothing to do with their race. Just like a feral child is still human – a white person raised in a predominately black country (i.e. Nigeria) is still white.
      Culture wise I am Nigerian – race wise you’d probably think that I’m black from knowing that I identify as Nigerian but, I’m not BLACK and will never be. I’m mixed race.

      To finish this up I will say Lita, a person can identify themselves as whatever culture they choose; race-wise they have no choice – they are what they are depending on the race of their parents. And no I did not base race definition on what a person looks like. Although I already put up how you can know a person’s race I will put it up again just for you Lita because you seem like you may have missed it or forgotten already – RACE: (black – from reading this definition you can deduce how to define other races not just black):If both your parents are black (BOTH) you are black. If one of your parents is black and the other is NOT BLACK – you are NOT BLACK, you are mixed race/coloured.

      On another note, a reason that people should not bunch in mixed race people in the same catogory as black people is because; mixed race poeple are used to represent black people because they look black enough but not too black, and then unrealistic physical expectations are placed upon REAL black people.

      SHOLA here tellin’ it like it is!

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