halles#1fan: Well Shola, here in AMERICA there is something called a one drop rule, which says “If you have one drop of Black blood in your body, then you are Black.” Know the full history before you start running off at the mouth!!!!

@ Halles#1fan AND @ Lita
Listen here you – firstly; ‘running off at the mouth’ who the h.e.l.l. are you. Before you try and get rude I know a lot about American history – probably more than you, from what you’ve said you seem igonarant.
As for what you were saying about the one drop rule – that is so outdated. That rule was created by racist white American people way back when to keep everybody who wasn’t completely like them surpressed in some way shape or form. The rule is outdated, ignorant and insulting – it infers that blackness takes precedence over any other race in a person. Whilst not congratulating the social hardships that have occured in South Africa, one must appreciate how (not why, but how) they define their people with truth and clear eyes: WHITE, BLACK, AND COLOURED!!!

Lita, from what you wrote in your reply it seems that you do not read my replies in their entirety – you just pick parts here and there so that you can disagree and make sense at the same time because you know that if you were to take my whole text into account when replying you would not be able to disagree. I did not say that my 1/4 Nigerian could not look black, I said it was very unlikely.
Also the definition I gave of race was not at all based on skin colour – if you had read my post properly you would know this.
RACE (black – from reading this definition you can deduce how to define other races not just black):If both your parents are black (BOTH) you are black. If one of your parents is black and the other is NOT BLACK – you are NOT BLACK, you are mixed race/coloured.

FYI Beyonce is not black because her mother isn’t – Beyonce is mixed race/coloured. Yes, she is part black but she is also other things too (European). It is irritating that people think blackness takes precedence over every other race in a person – that is such an outdated silly way of thinking! (If Halle Berry can be called ‘black woman’ then she can be called ‘white woman’, because she is just as much white as she is black and blackness DOES NOT take precedence over every other race in a person!) As for Anatole Broyard – no one said he was white. He didn’t even say he was white so what are you on about he is creole/coloured/mixed race – chose your adjective as you feel fit. As for keyshia Cole, I have no idea what she because I don’t know what race her biological father is and by the sounds of it neither does her mother Frankie.

Lita, you said ‘My problem, is there should never have been an subjugation based on race in the first place.’ Why would you even waste time writing that. Of course there should never have been – that’s why slavery in America and apartheid in South Africa were abolished – DUH!! You are so behind.

Lita, you also said, ‘…but naturally, people would have identified with nationality or culture (judging by your name, you, like me are a Nigerian, and would identify as such) and by default would have fit into a ‘race’…’
Not only is your staement wrong but you have used the 3 different words:nationality; culture; and race as if they have the same meaning. They do not.
You are correct in saying that I am Nigerian and I do identify as such – culturally I am Nigerian. You said that because of this by default I would fit into a ‘race’. You are completely wrong in saying this. Just because a person identifies with a certain culture or is a certain nationality that is nothing to do with their race. Just like a feral child is still human – a white person raised in a predominately black country (i.e. Nigeria) is still white.
Culture wise I am Nigerian – race wise you’d probably think that I’m black from knowing that I identify as Nigerian but, I’m not BLACK and will never be. I’m mixed race.

To finish this up I will say Lita, a person can identify themselves as whatever culture they choose; race-wise they have no choice – they are what they are depending on the race of their parents. And no I did not base race definition on what a person looks like. Although I already put up how you can know a person’s race I will put it up again just for you Lita because you seem like you may have missed it or forgotten already – RACE: (black – from reading this definition you can deduce how to define other races not just black):If both your parents are black (BOTH) you are black. If one of your parents is black and the other is NOT BLACK – you are NOT BLACK, you are mixed race/coloured.

On another note, a reason that people should not bunch in mixed race people in the same catogory as black people is because; mixed race poeple are used to represent black people because they look black enough but not too black, and then unrealistic physical expectations are placed upon REAL black people.

SHOLA here tellin’ it like it is!

One more note: for political reasons I am proud to be black and understand and support the black struggle. My problem, is there should never have been an subjugation based on race in the first place.