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Three Cops In Sean Bell Case Acquitted

Sean Bell and his fiancee Nicole Paultre pose with their daughter
Folks are outraged. The three NYPD detectives in the Sean Bell case were acquitted this morning on all charges. In case you've been living under a rock, the background of the case: Bell, a 23-year-old black man, was killed in a hail of gunfire outside a seedy strip club in Queens on Nov. 25, 2006 as he was leaving his bachelor party with two friends. The case ignited the emotions of people across the city and led to widespread protests among those who felt the officers used unnecessary force.
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Inside the courtroom and after the judgment: New York detectives Michael Oliver (2nd left), Gescard Isnora (3rd right) and Marc Cooper (far right). The financee of Sean Bell, weeps as she leaves the courtroom with her mother, Laura Paultre (2nd left) and the Reverend Al Sharpton (R) after the not guilty verdict on all counts was given by Judge Arthur Cooperman. This is going to be a problem. For many reasons...
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This whole case just makes me

This whole case just makes me sad it just brings up the same ole issues that we are so accustomed to. I am just sick of the outrage that is short lived until we forget about it, until something else happens. It is really time for our community to STAND UP and actually DO something. It does not take everyone if enough of us who care join together we can accomplish anything. I heard Sean Bell's wife on the radio today, she said she had been getting disturbing phone calls from people taunting her and just saying nasty hateful things, one of the callers who had called several times was traced back to the police department. How disgusting for policemen to call to rub the verdict in her face. Actually it is not just her face because it could be any one of our father sons brothers or uncles, it is a slap to all of us.Until we get tired of being sick and tired, stepped on, looked over , kicked to the curb, and pissed on, until we as a united community say enough is enough we are in for more of the same and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Just look if we just put half of the energy we are putting into getting Obama (I am not against his campaign just making a point) elected and put that same energy, hope, prayer and money into making real change in our local community we would be half way to the solution by now.The solution can only come from us.
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[quote comment="79639"][quote comment="78908"][quote comment="78831"]These are not the same times in NYC as Giuliani and Diallo. Al Sharpton is not Malcolm X. Sean Bell's babymama is not Coretta Scott King. Stop trying to make more of this than it is. The Mayor immediately embraced the Bell family and called for understanding from BOTH sides -- and the family has PUBLICLY acknowledged that. I was born and raised in New York City, currently living in Brooklyn and working in downtown Manhattan, and I can tell you people need to calm down because ain't NOTHING going on here. There is no mass outrage. The streets are business-as-usual. There were about 10 people in Sean Bell t-shirts "marching" in Harlem only - that's it. The rest of the people were just standing or trying to get on TV. I've seen more passion and organization from people waiting on line to see Beyonce![/quote] Awesome point. - Cosign. This "we are victims" mindset continues to hurt our community. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and many others do not have the black communities interest at heart. They need these issue to continue to be relevant. The test for them is not factual truth, it is how outraged is a misinformed community going to get, regardless of the bottom line. I dont need Al or Jesse to define me. My family taught me a long time ago that I am a winner. We all are winners without Jesse or AL exploiting these sensitive issues. Thank you huhwhat for looking at the facts and sharing them.[/quote] Easy for you woman to talk . key word woman... as a female myself i know that these black men have iot harrrrd harder than will ever imagine. My brother is a universty student, has never been in trouble with the law... dresses clean cut, yet whenever police pass by and see him comin home at night after they harass him. dip into his ass crack to see if he has anything. shake him. if he even thinks to carry more than 50 dollars they take it from him and even though we have filed complaints against them because there is lack of evidence nothing is done... so he continues to be harrased... one day he decided to argue back and they charge him with a petty ass charge of disturbing the peace.. there might be good cops but i dont know any and as far as im concern all there here to do is DISTURB and SUSPECT not serve and protect... they are power tripping and becoming a law unto themselfs and the only way to beat um is join them and than as a black officer your white washed and worse than the white officers... trust me they hace strength here on earth but one thing they cant beat is derath and there after and when judgement day licks them and God deals with them accordingly there gonna wish they hadn't done what they have. they won the battle but not the war[/quote] I hear you Toya, this is happening to many upstanding black men in many neighborhoods in NYC...I know many people who were unfairly treated by the NYPD...and the thing is, this deters them from catching the real criminals...
camilla's picture

Maybe we should just ignore

Maybe we should just ignore that ignorant a## comment!
Nick's picture

To add please God let me have

To add please God let me have all girls because i dont wanna bury my chilkd i would like them to bury me when time comes.
Toya's picture

[quote comment="78908"][quote

[quote comment="78908"][quote comment="78831"]These are not the same times in NYC as Giuliani and Diallo. Al Sharpton is not Malcolm X. Sean Bell's babymama is not Coretta Scott King. Stop trying to make more of this than it is. The Mayor immediately embraced the Bell family and called for understanding from BOTH sides -- and the family has PUBLICLY acknowledged that. I was born and raised in New York City, currently living in Brooklyn and working in downtown Manhattan, and I can tell you people need to calm down because ain't NOTHING going on here. There is no mass outrage. The streets are business-as-usual. There were about 10 people in Sean Bell t-shirts "marching" in Harlem only - that's it. The rest of the people were just standing or trying to get on TV. I've seen more passion and organization from people waiting on line to see Beyonce![/quote] Awesome point. - Cosign. This "we are victims" mindset continues to hurt our community. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and many others do not have the black communities interest at heart. They need these issue to continue to be relevant. The test for them is not factual truth, it is how outraged is a misinformed community going to get, regardless of the bottom line. I dont need Al or Jesse to define me. My family taught me a long time ago that I am a winner. We all are winners without Jesse or AL exploiting these sensitive issues. Thank you huhwhat for looking at the facts and sharing them.[/quote] Easy for you woman to talk . key word woman... as a female myself i know that these black men have iot harrrrd harder than will ever imagine. My brother is a universty student, has never been in trouble with the law... dresses clean cut, yet whenever police pass by and see him comin home at night after they harass him. dip into his ass crack to see if he has anything. shake him. if he even thinks to carry more than 50 dollars they take it from him and even though we have filed complaints against them because there is lack of evidence nothing is done... so he continues to be harrased... one day he decided to argue back and they charge him with a petty ass charge of disturbing the peace.. there might be good cops but i dont know any and as far as im concern all there here to do is DISTURB and SUSPECT not serve and protect... they are power tripping and becoming a law unto themselfs and the only way to beat um is join them and than as a black officer your white washed and worse than the white officers... trust me they hace strength here on earth but one thing they cant beat is derath and there after and when judgement day licks them and God deals with them accordingly there gonna wish they hadn't done what they have. they won the battle but not the war
Toya's picture

[quote comment="78875"][quote

[quote comment="78875"][quote comment="78834"]Guys, I smell pigs in this room...[/quote] This attitude and our inability to think with our minds instead of our emotions is the reason why we, as African Americans continue to not be the best that we can be. You read the comment, but you do not talk about one single fact. Instead, you name call like a child. Cmon, You can do better than that. Its cool and hip to hate the police in our community. We need to start changing the trend and try to look at every situation and incident for what it really is. We should try to gather all of the facts before commenting and unlike my friend here(Camilla), stick to the facts for a more meaningful discussion.[/quote] Why didn't you read the comments that I posted above before you made this statement? I live in the area and have followed the trial. Police brutality, racial profiling and unwarranted arrests in New York is a SYSTEMIC problem...Sean Bell could have been anyone of us...to ignore this fact you must be oblivious, especially since you are African-American. You are making these statements and YOU could easily be a target just on the basis of your skin color...
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[quote comment="78300"][quote comment="78113"][quote comment="78086"][quote comment="78066"]This is indeed very sad. You would have to be colored to understand the kind of feelings a person of color hoards within by this verdict. But we try to remain civil as we walk down the street, as we see arrogant officers laughing and celebrating, all on the strength of dignity we do not react. It is not a case of black or white...it has to do w/humanity. These officers off course does not want to lose their life or freedom...so they hire legal help so that they are able to have the opportunity to live a free life...the sad thing is they don't think anything of the pain and sorrow they have caused, by their own carelessness. In N.Y. there are three letters written on the police cars as they are patroling by, they are CPR, they supposedly stand for Courtesy, Proffesionalism & Respect. unfortunately, those three letters in the colored community stands for Cunning, Persecute & Racist. It is sad when you see colored officers patroling the more prominent neighborhoods, and white officers patroling the less prominent neighborhoods. They already look scared...that entire set up is intentional...if a young person looks suspicious, they have their hands on their weapons just because he looks suspicious. Nicole Paultre, her mother, Seam Bell's parent's & family and most of all Sean and Nicole's beautiful baby girl. That beautiful little girl will never hear the voice or hold the hands of father again, because the same people who are desperately trying to keep their life, took away her daddy's life. I have to commend Nicole Paultre, this is very dignified & strong woman. It takes a hell of a woman to remain as dignified and strong as Nicole has through something like this. What touched me the most is seeing Nicole break down after the verdict. No one deserves this, no matter what color. The only thing is unfortunately...we, as colored people will be the ones who continually have to go through this.[/quote] Great point, but can you refrain from using the term "colored". That sets us back 40 years.[/quote] I use the term colored, not to set us back 40 years. But there are plenty of us that look black, and claim black, but have the blood of many different races flowing through our bodies.[/quote] That is the problem that I am talking about. No one really sees all those variations that you spoke about and you should not even be seeing yourself as a "better black person" if I may. Even if you are mixed with the Aryan of the bloods. They will still call u black. You need unity of mind and purpose![/quote] I am glad to have this dialogue w/you...but I find it intersting you are judging me-as if we've met. We were discussing a topic that we feel common passion about via e-mail...we do not know each other personally to criticize one another. And, yes people do see the variations I am talking about, because they are in the streets everyday. Be it lt. brown, Dk brown, Latte, caramel, etc... last I saw, we come in multiple hues of dark to almost white. That is not from 100% African, that for the majority from a mixture of races...therefor colored. I am not of mixed races, I do not think I am better than any colored person out there, nor feel that I am a "better black person". You do not know me to know how involved, or how passionate I am about people, nor do you know me to know the state of my mind...or my ability to unify. This is solely how I refer to us, because no other race can offer the multiplicity in color that we do. Thank you for the intersting dialogue.
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They are lucky that it wasn't

They are lucky that it wasn't anyone in my family or those dumb cops would be needing some fellow cop protection.. since they clearly have no discipline with a gun they should be stripped of their duties and send to Iraq as convoy drivers, they would make good IED targets.
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[quote comment="78831"]These

[quote comment="78831"]These are not the same times in NYC as Giuliani and Diallo. Al Sharpton is not Malcolm X. Sean Bell's babymama is not Coretta Scott King. Stop trying to make more of this than it is. The Mayor immediately embraced the Bell family and called for understanding from BOTH sides -- and the family has PUBLICLY acknowledged that. I was born and raised in New York City, currently living in Brooklyn and working in downtown Manhattan, and I can tell you people need to calm down because ain't NOTHING going on here. There is no mass outrage. The streets are business-as-usual. There were about 10 people in Sean Bell t-shirts "marching" in Harlem only - that's it. The rest of the people were just standing or trying to get on TV. I've seen more passion and organization from people waiting on line to see Beyonce![/quote] Awesome point. - Cosign. This "we are victims" mindset continues to hurt our community. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and many others do not have the black communities interest at heart. They need these issue to continue to be relevant. The test for them is not factual truth, it is how outraged is a misinformed community going to get, regardless of the bottom line. I dont need Al or Jesse to define me. My family taught me a long time ago that I am a winner. We all are winners without Jesse or AL exploiting these sensitive issues. Thank you huhwhat for looking at the facts and sharing them.
individual thinker's picture

@individualthinker -

@individualthinker - cosign @camilla - do you seriously believe NYPD has nothing better to do than search and post on black celebrity gossip sites? SMH...
huhwhat's picture

[quote comment="78834"]Guys,

[quote comment="78834"]Guys, I smell pigs in this room...[/quote] This attitude and our inability to think with our minds instead of our emotions is the reason why we, as African Americans continue to not be the best that we can be. You read the comment, but you do not talk about one single fact. Instead, you name call like a child. Cmon, You can do better than that. Its cool and hip to hate the police in our community. We need to start changing the trend and try to look at every situation and incident for what it really is. We should try to gather all of the facts before commenting and unlike my friend here(Camilla), stick to the facts for a more meaningful discussion.
individual thinker's picture

Guys, I smell pigs in this

Guys, I smell pigs in this room...
camilla's picture

These are not the same times

These are not the same times in NYC as Giuliani and Diallo. Al Sharpton is not Malcolm X. Sean Bell's babymama is not Coretta Scott King. Stop trying to make more of this than it is. The Mayor immediately embraced the Bell family and called for understanding from BOTH sides -- and the family has PUBLICLY acknowledged that. I was born and raised in New York City, currently living in Brooklyn and working in downtown Manhattan, and I can tell you people need to calm down because ain't NOTHING going on here. There is no mass outrage. The streets are business-as-usual. There were about 10 people in Sean Bell t-shirts "marching" in Harlem only - that's it. The rest of the people were just standing or trying to get on TV. I've seen more passion and organization from people waiting on line to see Beyonce!
huhwhat's picture

The justice system worked

The justice system worked fine in the Sean Bell case. Many of us comment on these issues without taking the time to gather all of the facts. Sean Bell made a threat to retrieve a gun, to a women, in a club, while drunk, according to African American witnesses. He was followed to his vehicle by detectives at scene. If the detectives chose to ignore Sean Bell and Mr Bell returned and shot that women, some of you would still be "raising cane" about police corruption. Mr Sean Bell, according to witnesses, while drunk, chose to ignore Police Officers orders, with guns pointed at him; according to African American witnesses. Mr Bell then accelerated his vehicle towards the Officers for whatever reason. The rest is history. 31 shots to stop a moving vehicle is not unrealistic. Te entire situation is unfortunate and sad. However, Sean Bell and his coherts were not exemplary members of society. The fact of the matter is that they were drug dealers and that in and of itself does not warrant their death, however, it you play with fire, you will eventually get burned. It truly is a sad and unfortunate situation.
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i personnally find that the

i personnally find that the officers should have gotten life imprisonment without parole...but the WHITE judges and jury didn't feel that way...and if u think ur life was endangered by an UNARMED BLACK MAN why shoot @ him 50 times??? wouldn't one warning shot in the air would have done the trick...that's A POOR POOR EXCUSE MR OFFICERS!!! They killed Sean Bell all over again...Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave...did his dream die with him...how can we allow innocent slayings of black ppl continue in the 21st century. I know ppl talk about slavery and all of that but we are not the same blk ppl of 500 yrs ago. WE are more educated,we hold positions in society, our mind set is different(or so i think), therefore we can make a change...we can't wait on Obama 2 do that 4 us. This verdict just calling for protest, riots and boycotts. PPl if Rosa Parks got up and said "As you wish Mr(White)" WE would still be in a sorry state 2day. The US justice system needs 2 be checked because if this is what they call justice then we are jus calling for civil unrest. SOMEONE LOST A FATHER, A SON,A FUTURE HUSBAD,A NEPHEW, A UNCLE etc. SEAN DID NOT HAVE 2DIE BUT BCUZ OF SOME TRIGGER HAPPY OFFICERS HE IS...STUPES...I'M SOOOOOOO PISSED RITE NOW!!!
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Dave you need jesus.Get a

Dave you need jesus.Get a heart...
slimtoy's picture

[quote comment="78592"][quote

[quote comment="78592"][quote comment="78577"]All the idiot had to do is stop the car when the police ordered him to do so. Not try to run them over.[/quote] YOU'RE THE DAMN IDIOT...THE POLICE DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, THEY WERE UNDERCOVER, AND SO SEAN BELL AND HIS FRIENDS THOUGHT THEY WERE PATRONS AT THE CLUB TRYING TO ATTACK THEM...Cops here are ruthless bastards...look at the Amadou Diallo case, an unarmed man was shot 30 times because he was reaching for his keys...God forbid you reach into your damn pocket, you'll get shot for no damn reason...[/quote] Thank you. I was trying to remember the name of another innocent victim who was shot by the cops. If I recall correctly, he had gunshot wounds on the soles of his feet which clearly means they continued to shoot even AFTER he was down. Regardless of what the police had to say for their defense (besides a lot of "I thoughts") there is no justifying 50 bullets against 3 UNARMED men. I do hope they will pay in one form or the other.
Wanda's picture

[quote comment="78727"]The

[quote comment="78727"]The justice system worked fine in the Sean Bell case. Many of us comment on these issues without taking the time to gather all of the facts. Sean Bell made a threat to retrieve a gun, to a women, in a club, while drunk, according to African American witnesses. He was followed to his vehicle by detectives at scene. If the detectives chose to ignore Sean Bell and Mr Bell returned and shot that women, some of you would still be "raising cane" about police corruption. Mr Sean Bell, according to witnesses, while drunk, chose to ignore Police Officers orders, with guns pointed at him; according to African American witnesses. Mr Bell then accelerated his vehicle towards the Officers for whatever reason. The rest is history. 31 shots to stop a moving vehicle is not unrealistic. Te entire situation is unfortunate and sad. However, Sean Bell and his coherts were not exemplary members of society. The fact of the matter is that they were drug dealers and that in and of itself does not warrant their death, however, it you play with fire, you will eventually get burned. It truly is a sad and unfortunate situation.[/quote] Look, the justice system obviously works for you, but not for African-Americans... When this happened, there were many witnesses that stated that the police did not identify themselves or flash their badges (remember they were undercover) ...the detectives union obviously paid these people for saying this. At the time it happened, the people at the scene did not say that the police gave orders, they just started shooting. And firing 30 shots to a moving vehicle in close range is unrealistic. They were specifically aiming at the people in the van, because shooting at windows and doors is not going to stop a van--shooting about 10 shots in the tires will. They acted recklessly here and you know it, or you wouldn't try to justify it, but say it's a sad and unfortunate situation... And where do you get that they are not exemplary members of society and drug dealers? No drugs nor guns were found on them. You must be a fucking pig yourself. They were shot 50 times by trigger happy police who should have used proper judgment. The police officers were drinking prior to this incident--they were not exemplary members of society and should set an example.
camilla's picture

To be honest i knew the judge

To be honest i knew the judge was gonna let the cops off easily, the justice system sucks when it come to black people if the role who have been reversed and the guys in the car were white men those three cops would have been punished, someone father,son,husband,etc was killed and the judge felt that he was a danger the man was going to get married i don't think he had any evil thoughts in his mind , but after seeing what happen to Sean bell family show me that being black is really a crime in America.
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HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your dandruff has really been scratched!!!!!!!!! Calm down, idiot!!!!!!!!!!!
Andrea's picture

[quote comment="78577"]All

[quote comment="78577"]All the idiot had to do is stop the car when the police ordered him to do so. Not try to run them over.[/quote] YOU'RE THE DAMN IDIOT...THE POLICE DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, THEY WERE UNDERCOVER, AND SO SEAN BELL AND HIS FRIENDS THOUGHT THEY WERE PATRONS AT THE CLUB TRYING TO ATTACK THEM...Cops here are ruthless bastards...look at the Amadou Diallo case, an unarmed man was shot 30 times because he was reaching for his keys...God forbid you reach into your damn pocket, you'll get shot for no damn reason...
camilla's picture

Dave, he's not and was not an

Dave, he's not and was not an idiot. That was someone's child. Now, how would you feel if someone called you an idiot for the comment you posted?!?!?!?!
Andrea's picture

I'm not surprised by what is

I'm not surprised by what is happening in New York. If you all remember the case with Abner Louima (google the name if not) it was the same situation. I was raised in New York and NYPD ARE NOT AND WILL NOT BE RESPECTED. Watch there will be another incident where justice will no prevail. An off duty Mt. Vernon police officer Christopher Ridley was shot and killed in January 2008 in White Plains, NY by Westchester County Police. Yes, there is time for justice but it will not be served as long as there is an opportunity for cover-ups. They will protect their own like a mother will protect her children. Ya'll be blessed!!!!
Andrea's picture

All the idiot had to do is

All the idiot had to do is stop the car when the police ordered him to do so. Not try to run them over.
Dave's picture

Injustice anywhere is a

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Wake up BEAUTIFUL BLACK PEOPLE, educate yourselves with knowledge. Don't turn a blind eye to this blatant disregard for human life. My prayers and deepest sincerities goes out to all affected by this. which is everyone either directly or indirectly this touches us all.
DeltaGirl's picture

i hope the family sues the

i hope the family sues the police department and the city for civil damages millions of dollars!
srsoftouch's picture

I can't believe the cops were

I can't believe the cops were acquitted. I heard it on the news yesterday. This case got a lot of coverage, it was all over the papers, and I live in Dublin, Ireland. If it was a white man they killed they wouldn't have got off. I am white myself, and the racism that still exists around the world today, makes me sick.
Irishgirl's picture

[quote comment="78526"][quote

[quote comment="78526"][quote comment="77941"][quote comment="77818"][quote comment="77747"][quote comment="77722"]Oh man, I know I'm going to be in for it but we're all entitled to our own opinions so here goes nothing: I'm a black woman and feel that by calling the not guilty sentence "wrong" or "BS" is the problem that perpetuates racism. C'mon, if all those cops were black and had done the same thing to a white guy and then the black cops were found not guilty then everything would be a-ok. So how is that right? And if the opposite happened -- they found the black cops guilty then all hell would have broken loose again. "They were found guilty cause they're black, blah blah." C'om people, we as a race are better than that. I'm tired of hearing about slavery, oppressing us for so long, etc. but this is 2008 and people today had NOTHING to do with what happened to our ancestors. There's a reason why a higher percentage of Latino and African-Americans are in prison and/or father illegitimate children, etc. Go ahead and launch into a tirade of how I'm a sell-out, etc. I'm just saying....[/quote] ...what you’re speaking' of is a strange hypothetical, it has never happened and has nothing to do with the tragedy that just occurred. If your are concerned about "counter-attacks" why would you post this in light of the fact that the whole African American community is in mourning over this??? No one needs to go on a tirade, the fact that you’re expecting or trying to incite such an outcome to your statements would suggest that you obviously feel that you’re self hating and a sell out. What are your intentions?[/quote] well said :D tore her ass up.[/quote] Just Nikki. I commend you and agree with your statement wholeheartedly. To Ms. Karyn: Please allow me to formulate my thoughts on what you believe perpetuates racism. We as African Americans have doors closed, applications for employment rejected and suffer from cancellations of programs that benefit our youth. Is our belief that if we were non-African American those doors may have remained opened, received the job offer, or had people trying to not only save current programs, but also create new ones for our youth "BS" and racist? There are individuals who are "so tired" of hearing us talk about the oppression of our people, Jim Crow and the basic day to day, either overtly or instructional racism ,that we face. I am one of those who is equally as "tired" of hearing people who think what we see, feel and experience is some sort of figment of our imagination or our reading to deeply into something that is not there. You have your African Americans who proudly boast "I'm educated and I worked hard to get where I am. I did it myself. I didn't need the support of "Affirmative Action" programs and such to get me where i am today." Those are the ones I've never quite understood because for as much as people want to pretend, guess what? Race does matter. I AM one of those who is highly educated ( 2 BA degrees as well as a Dual Masters), am in senior management with my company and grew up in "suburbia". But for no amount of education, no matter how articulate I may be in a board of directors meeting, how "fine" my hair is, I am still a BLACK woman in America rather than a woman who happens to be black. In being a BLACK woman in America means a struggle, it means working twice as hard to get half as far, it means understanding that no matter how much we kid ourselves, we have yet to be viewed as equals citizens in this country. So, to you, Ms. Kayrn..."I'm just saying"[/quote] ...I feel better knowing that so many of us could address this sensibly aand without feeling into this childish trap. :-)[/quote] ...I feel better knowing that so many of us could address this sensibly and without falling into this childish trap. :-)[/
Just Nikki's picture

[quote comment="77941"][quote

[quote comment="77941"][quote comment="77818"][quote comment="77747"][quote comment="77722"]Oh man, I know I'm going to be in for it but we're all entitled to our own opinions so here goes nothing: I'm a black woman and feel that by calling the not guilty sentence "wrong" or "BS" is the problem that perpetuates racism. C'mon, if all those cops were black and had done the same thing to a white guy and then the black cops were found not guilty then everything would be a-ok. So how is that right? And if the opposite happened -- they found the black cops guilty then all hell would have broken loose again. "They were found guilty cause they're black, blah blah." C'om people, we as a race are better than that. I'm tired of hearing about slavery, oppressing us for so long, etc. but this is 2008 and people today had NOTHING to do with what happened to our ancestors. There's a reason why a higher percentage of Latino and African-Americans are in prison and/or father illegitimate children, etc. Go ahead and launch into a tirade of how I'm a sell-out, etc. I'm just saying....[/quote] ...what you’re speaking' of is a strange hypothetical, it has never happened and has nothing to do with the tragedy that just occurred. If your are concerned about "counter-attacks" why would you post this in light of the fact that the whole African American community is in mourning over this??? No one needs to go on a tirade, the fact that you’re expecting or trying to incite such an outcome to your statements would suggest that you obviously feel that you’re self hating and a sell out. What are your intentions?[/quote] well said :D tore her ass up.[/quote] Just Nikki. I commend you and agree with your statement wholeheartedly. To Ms. Karyn: Please allow me to formulate my thoughts on what you believe perpetuates racism. We as African Americans have doors closed, applications for employment rejected and suffer from cancellations of programs that benefit our youth. Is our belief that if we were non-African American those doors may have remained opened, received the job offer, or had people trying to not only save current programs, but also create new ones for our youth "BS" and racist? There are individuals who are "so tired" of hearing us talk about the oppression of our people, Jim Crow and the basic day to day, either overtly or instructional racism ,that we face. I am one of those who is equally as "tired" of hearing people who think what we see, feel and experience is some sort of figment of our imagination or our reading to deeply into something that is not there. You have your African Americans who proudly boast "I'm educated and I worked hard to get where I am. I did it myself. I didn't need the support of "Affirmative Action" programs and such to get me where i am today." Those are the ones I've never quite understood because for as much as people want to pretend, guess what? Race does matter. I AM one of those who is highly educated ( 2 BA degrees as well as a Dual Masters), am in senior management with my company and grew up in "suburbia". But for no amount of education, no matter how articulate I may be in a board of directors meeting, how "fine" my hair is, I am still a BLACK woman in America rather than a woman who happens to be black. In being a BLACK woman in America means a struggle, it means working twice as hard to get half as far, it means understanding that no matter how much we kid ourselves, we have yet to be viewed as equals citizens in this country. So, to you, Ms. Kayrn..."I'm just saying"[/quote] ...I feel better knowing that so many of us could address this sensibly aand without feeling into this childish trap. :-)
Just Nikki's picture

[quote comment="78216"][quote

[quote comment="78216"][quote comment="77920"][quote comment="77818"][quote comment="77747"][quote comment="77722"]Oh man, I know I'm going to be in for it but we're all entitled to our own opinions so here goes nothing: I'm a black woman and feel that by calling the not guilty sentence "wrong" or "BS" is the problem that perpetuates racism. C'mon, if all those cops were black and had done the same thing to a white guy and then the black cops were found not guilty then everything would be a-ok. So how is that right? And if the opposite happened -- they found the black cops guilty then all hell would have broken loose again. "They were found guilty cause they're black, blah blah." C'om people, we as a race are better than that. I'm tired of hearing about slavery, oppressing us for so long, etc. but this is 2008 and people today had NOTHING to do with what happened to our ancestors. There's a reason why a higher percentage of Latino and African-Americans are in prison and/or father illegitimate children, etc. Go ahead and launch into a tirade of how I'm a sell-out, etc. I'm just saying....[/quote] ...what you’re speaking' of is a strange hypothetical, it has never happened and has nothing to do with the tragedy that just occurred. If your are concerned about "counter-attacks" why would you post this in light of the fact that the whole African American community is in mourning over this??? No one needs to go on a tirade, the fact that you’re expecting or trying to incite such an outcome to your statements would suggest that you obviously feel that you’re self hating and a sell out. What are your intentions?[/quote] well said :D tore her ass up.[/quote] ...don't know if it made a difference, there's always got to be someone who picks the worst time to be special. The cops were Black and Hispanic so if the "tables" turned you'd get the same thing :-/[/quote] Why are people saying that the cops were all minorities?!! Detective Oliver is the one that shot the first 31 rounds and he is WHITE!! He shot the most shots and reloaded! I'm from Brooklyn and knows this case! That's why we are saying it's racism because of his dumb rascist ass...and black cops are brainwashed and hypocrites, they're no better.[/quote] ...Hey if that's the case then it ain't shocking, the media is saying that Oliver is Hispanic, and you know there are some Latinos that consider themselves white. The bottomline is police burtality must be stop and the fact that black cops are joining in is sick as shit!!!
Just Nikki's picture

[quote comment="78430"][quote

[quote comment="78430"][quote comment="78268"]So sweet couple!!do they still play on ~~intimatemingle.com~? I heard that from many friends who play on that site, but i did not believe yet until i saw their hottest photos on that[/quote] why don't you fucking quit it with this plugging your damn site....[/quote] For real....now is certainly not the time nor is this the appropriate topic. Show some class.
Haila's picture

electric**

electric**
bran"DON"'s picture

THIS IS THE REASON WHY I CANT

THIS IS THE REASON WHY I CANT STAND CRACKAS.....i bet if the tables were turned and it was three black cops that killed a white guy they can pretty much guess what might possibly happen to them ZAP! straight fried in the electic chair....THIS WORLD WE LIVE IN***SMH!!!***
bran"DON"'s picture

Yes, they can. Nicole Bell

Yes, they can. Nicole Bell has a pending $50 million civil suit aganst the NYPD and the city. The federal government is also looking into it as possible civil rights violation against Sean Bell. At the end of the day, money would help, but I would want these three clowns in JAIL!
Lisa's picture

[quote comment="77634"]As a

[quote comment="77634"]As a first year law student, we are always to told remember justice, truth, and fairness. But decisions like this make me truly wonder how much justice, truth, and fairness there REALLY is left in the system. Hopefully, our appeals system will undue the wrong.[/quote] Can they still follow-up with a civil trial?
Harlem 112's picture

*sigh* No matter how many

*sigh* No matter how many times something blatantly unjust like this happens, I am still shocked. I can't say much more than what has already been said by everyone. It's not just a sad day in NY or in the US...we Canadians are just as outraged. Trust. So frustrating...
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[quote comment="78405"]GOT

[quote comment="78405"]GOT DAMN AMERICA-Rev Wright is Right!! The justice system has failed us again!! GOT DAMN AMERICA. I am telling everyone right now, we need to pick three days to united with our people and stop SHOPPING. We have to hit them in their pockets. YES WE CAN!! We can do it. This will send a strong message, especially when we are in a RECESSION. WE can shut GOT DAMN AMERICA DOWN. The only way, we are going to get justice and for them to ever think about letting another racist police officers free, is by stopping our cash flow through GOT DAMN AMERICA. Who is going to stand with ME? I am telling you now we can do this. We can send this nation a message, that we are not going to take this anymore! Come on let's pick three straight days in a month, and shut AMERICA DOWN. Everyone must send an e:mail to all of their friends. The internet is the fastest way we can reach millions of people to get our message cross. It's the same way, we sit at our computer and send gossip stories, etc. around. This is the same way we can send our message to millions of people who are sick and tired of our black men dying in vain, with out just cause. Please lets united and fight back.[/quote] You're damn right...black people are the biggest consumers, and that's the only way that they will get the message. Don't tell me that we can't refrain from buying high end shit for a couple of months, we are talking about civil liberties here! In Brooklyn, if you're male, and it's summer, you better not have your ass on the corner at 11:00 at night. The cops will round you up and take you to the precinct just to see if you have outstanding warrants. They've been doing it in my neighborhood for years. Sure, crime has gone down, but ALOT of innocent brothers were locked up for petty shit like walking through the projects because they didn't live there (trespassing)...
camilla's picture

[quote comment="78405"]GOT

[quote comment="78405"]GOT DAMN AMERICA-Rev Wright is Right!! The justice system has failed us again!! GOT DAMN AMERICA. I am telling everyone right now, we need to pick three days to united with our people and stop SHOPPING. We have to hit them in their pockets. YES WE CAN!! We can do it. This will send a strong message, especially when we are in a RECESSION. WE can shut GOT DAMN AMERICA DOWN. The only way, we are going to get justice and for them to ever think about letting another racist police officers free, is by stopping our cash flow through GOT DAMN AMERICA. Who is going to stand with ME? I am telling you now we can do this. We can send this nation a message, that we are not going to take this anymore! Come on let's pick three straight days in a month, and shut AMERICA DOWN. Everyone must send an e:mail to all of their friends. The internet is the fastest way we can reach millions of people to get our message cross. It's the same way, we sit at our computer and send gossip stories, etc. around. This is the same way we can send our message to millions of people who are sick and tired of our black men dying in vain, with out just cause. Please lets united and fight back.[/quote] You have an excellent point...one that I will implement for the longest time....and when you do resume buying - buy black!
PAINBODY's picture

[quote comment="78268"]So

[quote comment="78268"]So sweet couple!!do they still play on ~~intimatemingle.com~? I heard that from many friends who play on that site, but i did not believe yet until i saw their hottest photos on that[/quote] why don't you fucking quit it with this plugging your damn site....
camilla's picture

GOT DAMN AMERICA-Rev Wright

GOT DAMN AMERICA-Rev Wright is Right!! The justice system has failed us again!! GOT DAMN AMERICA. I am telling everyone right now, we need to pick three days to united with our people and stop SHOPPING. We have to hit them in their pockets. YES WE CAN!! We can do it. This will send a strong message, especially when we are in a RECESSION. WE can shut GOT DAMN AMERICA DOWN. The only way, we are going to get justice and for them to ever think about letting another racist police officers free, is by stopping our cash flow through GOT DAMN AMERICA. Who is going to stand with ME? I am telling you now we can do this. We can send this nation a message, that we are not going to take this anymore! Come on let's pick three straight days in a month, and shut AMERICA DOWN. Everyone must send an e:mail to all of their friends. The internet is the fastest way we can reach millions of people to get our message cross. It's the same way, we sit at our computer and send gossip stories, etc. around. This is the same way we can send our message to millions of people who are sick and tired of our black men dying in vain, with out just cause. Please lets united and fight back.
Sandy's picture

As soon as I woke up and

As soon as I woke up and turned on my tv I heard about this...I am from new york and like I said on another website.."I am not shocked"...This has been happening so much here....These cops get away with murder...We need more than Al Sharpton..What we need is people from every race to band together and speak up about all of this and to demand changes and to demand to shut the city down until dramatic changes are made...We need people that will actually go and try to change the laws and create new ones...I wouldn't fund any of the political candidates until some changes are made here...Other than that..nobody's father,son,uncle, brother, nephew, or friend is safe at all...Now the question is what are all of us going to do about all this..seriously..also to the person that used the term "colored"..um..wtf are you 80 years old or something..The cops are shooting to kill..They have shot children..I remember hearing about a cop shooting an old lady here..No one is safe...When a cop is shot they will catch the person before they even lay their head down to sleep that night and that person goes to jail..but if a cop does something they just get suspended
Candice's picture

[quote comment="77618"]Black

[quote comment="77618"]Black women protect your young sons eduacate them to the highest level![/quote] Amen
Toot fromSTL's picture

NORTH CAROLINA AND INDIANA

NORTH CAROLINA AND INDIANA YOU MUST GOOOO OUT AND VOTE FOR MR.OBAMA WITH A QUICKNESS!!!SO CHANGE CAN HAPPEN!!
WHY's picture

People on here are talking

People on here are talking about “going back to africa” are you kidding. In africa people are still part of the food chain!Black Aemericans are the MOST educated,Wealthiest, and most powerful black community in the history of the world. Why dont people realize this and take advantage of it.Affirmative action people. Get out there get and education and become someone important and change things yourself. Over the past 30 years the black community in the USA(the greatest and fairest country in the world) has risen dramatically. Look at the statistics people. More than half of all black are middle class. 50 percent of blacks now own there own home. There is some crazy phenomenon in this country called white guilt(even though no one today even ever met anyone who owned a slave). Take advantage of it.PPl recognize that alot of blacks go to low performance schools, so they try to compensate with college quotas so black kids can get an education. Take advantage of it.And use this case to help prevent this from happening to your children. Teach them that you have to respect cops and do what they ask and they will grow up and do just that and they wont have any problems with the cops. if you teach children that this country is racist and cops hate black ppl then the children will grow up with a chip on their shoulder and not do the right thing. I see the people who the police rough up. They arent the compliant ones. This isnt a race issue here. 4 cops thought they were preventing a gun fight,the driver of the car then actually hits one of the cops and smashes into 2 cops cars. What should the cops do say ill take my risk at getting killed. And the number of shot is irrelevent.if you shoot sum1 1 time and they die are they less dead then if you shoot them 100 times. NO!!Lets take a negative and turn it into a positive by teaching our children to behave civilly. Also education is key people. In new jersey inner city schools spend alottt more money per pupil than suburban schools. The problem isnt funding. The problem is the kids in the school who's parent are cracked out so they dont care about their kids school.Than the other kids(the majority) cant get an education because of all the screw ups. No one is going to change things for you, you have to educate and do it for yourselfs.They answer isnt riot its educate.
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Why is it always an unarmed

Why is it always an unarmed black man who fall victim to police bullets? How come I never hear of an unarmed white man getting shot 50 times. The cop even emptied then reloaded on the groom!!! Black men gotta be arming themselves to protect themselves from the police!!!
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[quote comment="78113"][quote

[quote comment="78113"][quote comment="78086"][quote comment="78066"]This is indeed very sad. You would have to be colored to understand the kind of feelings a person of color hoards within by this verdict. But we try to remain civil as we walk down the street, as we see arrogant officers laughing and celebrating, all on the strength of dignity we do not react. It is not a case of black or white...it has to do w/humanity. These officers off course does not want to lose their life or freedom...so they hire legal help so that they are able to have the opportunity to live a free life...the sad thing is they don't think anything of the pain and sorrow they have caused, by their own carelessness. In N.Y. there are three letters written on the police cars as they are patroling by, they are CPR, they supposedly stand for Courtesy, Proffesionalism & Respect. unfortunately, those three letters in the colored community stands for Cunning, Persecute & Racist. It is sad when you see colored officers patroling the more prominent neighborhoods, and white officers patroling the less prominent neighborhoods. They already look scared...that entire set up is intentional...if a young person looks suspicious, they have their hands on their weapons just because he looks suspicious. Nicole Paultre, her mother, Seam Bell's parent's & family and most of all Sean and Nicole's beautiful baby girl. That beautiful little girl will never hear the voice or hold the hands of father again, because the same people who are desperately trying to keep their life, took away her daddy's life. I have to commend Nicole Paultre, this is very dignified & strong woman. It takes a hell of a woman to remain as dignified and strong as Nicole has through something like this. What touched me the most is seeing Nicole break down after the verdict. No one deserves this, no matter what color. The only thing is unfortunately...we, as colored people will be the ones who continually have to go through this.[/quote] Great point, but can you refrain from using the term "colored". That sets us back 40 years.[/quote] I use the term colored, not to set us back 40 years. But there are plenty of us that look black, and claim black, but have the blood of many different races flowing through our bodies.[/quote] That is the problem that I am talking about. No one really sees all those variations that you spoke about and you should not even be seeing yourself as a "better black person" if I may. Even if you are mixed with the Aryan of the bloods. They will still call u black. You need unity of mind and purpose!
PAINBODY's picture

[quote comment="78189"][quote

[quote comment="78189"][quote comment="78150"][quote comment="78062"]The best way to not get killed by the police is to not act reckless around them. When i get pulled over i put my hands on the wheel and turn the light son in the car.This kid hit a cop with his car and hit 2 cop cars. How is none of the blame being put back on the car occupents. Now obviously mr. Bell should not have been killed. He was unarmed and didnt intend to kill anyone. But if you choose to live like a thug there are only a few outcomes possible.If your going to get into fights and tell ppl you r going to get a gun you are asking for trouble.We rnt talking about choir boys.There were empty bullet shells in the car that didnt belong to the police.They werent shot that night but some one was shooting from that car.Why doesnt the news mention this more often.Why isnt the community up in arms about the gang problem.Since 2000 the gang problem in new york has taken thousands of young black mens lifes. The police have tekan 3 unjustly(and all were mistakes not racist murder). I just dont get it. I can understand ppl being upset,absolutely,but lets also say that this guy was acting crazy and that the gangs do a whole lot more killing. If Sean Bell would have turned his car off and not try to runover a cop he never would have been shot.[/quote] i really need for you to pull up all this info that your quoting here...you can put whatever topping you like on a pile a sh*t but it will still be a pile a sh*t...last time i checked you dont have to be reckless around the police to get layed out...you just have to fit the sterotype of what the media has percieved a thug to be from your comments i see that have blinders on you aswell..if you were in your car and armed men run up on me and never identify themselves as police but are telling you to get out of your car what would you really do? the avarage police glock haold 17-19 rounds for an office to shhot 30 or so meant at some point he stopped to reload . the history of gangs tells you they evolved because of police brutatity and the neglect the african american community was experiencing at that time...as with anything and everything there will always be ones that are lead astray of the initial purpose and goal. we will continue to have the issues we have because we as a people are not united. dont be fooled...educate urself before working dumbass comments[/quote] So after you turn on all the lights and cement your hands to the steering wheel, do you do a little dance for them too? Or are your hands too busy? I mean this is the problem, why should we, as Black folk have to get so damn shook every time the cops come around? F*ck the police. These are the same people that take an oath to PROTECT everybody, not just the people who’s skin is lacking melanin. In all honestly, yes, Sean Bell and his friends acted recklessly. Did that warrant the cops shooting over 50 rounds? Did that warrant his death? I’m glad I’m not home right now because I can’t imagine what it’s like in New York at the moment. And did you see the press conference? ONLY ONE OF THE COPS APOLOGIZED TO SEAN’S FAMILY FOR THEIR LOSS. Let’s not get angry, this is far from over for those three police officers. They still have a possible federal trial and a wrongful death lawsuit on top of the city of NY deciding if they will ever be able to be ‘officers of the law’ again. At this time I think anger will just make the whole situation worse than it already is. We as Black people just need to take this as yet ANOTHER reminder of where we stand in this country, yes we have come far, but we have even further to go. Racism is still well and alive, and it’s even worse now because they just try to hide it as opposed to it being right out in the open. But like I said we should take this as a reminder of where we stand, and use it as motivation to better ourselves as a people and raise our children with intelligence. Above all, at a time like this prayer is of the utmost importance. We should all take time out to pray for Sean’s soul, his family, and the state of America today. And [I know I’ll catch some hate for this] but we should also pray for those three officers, pray that they can someday understand the magnitude of their actions and that God forgives them for their sins.[/quote] You know I understand where you're coming from when you say that we as black people shouldn't have to be shook everytime the cops roll around but there is some truth to Johnboys statement. I do feel for the Bell family and I can only imagine the pain they are feeling at this time. Yeah we shouldn't have to be shook when the police roll up but we need to be at this point in time and it's a sad truth. Hopefully one day it will be different but we are talking about right now OK. I grew up in Queens, NY and I live in Brooklyn, NY now. The strip clubs in NY (ESPECIALLY IN THE HOOD - Brooklyn and Queens) are not like what you see in the movies like "The Players Club". They are much, much worse than that movie could ever depict. Those girls are selling themselves in bathroom stalls, there are mad drugs and other criminal activites that go on in strip clubs in the hood. The cops knew that and they ran with it. You have to kinda put yourself in their position. You're a cop, you put your life on the line everyday. You going to investigate criminal activity at a strip club that is a known to attract thugs, drug dealers etc. And I'm sorry to say, those guys were not choir boys and they did act recklessly and I know they probably never thought it would have went down like that night but it did. You put all those elements together and bam, it's just the right recipe for something like that to happen. I KNOW IT WAS WRONG AND BELL SHOULD STILL BE HERE. BUT BELIEVE ME, IF BELLS FRIENDS COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE A FEW THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAT NIGHT. Yes, its messed up and things like this shouldn't happen but they do. We (black people) can't just be doing any old thing we want to around the police. THEY HAVE NO LOVE FOR US!! SO DON'T GIVE THEM A REASON TO BECAUSE THEY WILL SHOT TO KILL IF THEY FEEL THREATENED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. Sad story, but that's how it is out here. Maybe the outcome would have been different if he would have turned off his car and not tried to drive towards them. But it's too late for that now... He's gone and his wife and children have to bear that cross for the rest of their lives.
redbuttafly007's picture

this shit is jus fucked up

this shit is jus fucked up because i dont understand how you could shoot someone "50" times and get away with it!!!!!!!!!
melessa's picture

WOW, this is unbelievable,

WOW, this is unbelievable, the justice system in America....WHAT JUSTICE...beyond sad, repulsive and disgusting....I can't even imagine what Nicole and her family have to go through.....
MW09's picture

Might I also add that the

Might I also add that the undercover cops had been drinking that night 'to fit in'. Not only did the police drag out the investigation and tear apart the car trying desperately to find a weapon, they then went out and physically roughed up other young men in the community all as part of their 'investigation'. The cops are messed up. But we're even more messed up because we're not doing anything. Every time we say 'never again' and every time after that we say 'never again' again. We as a people need to look at ourselves, in all honesty there is wayyy too much violence in our communities. And I know it's hard for us to rise above it, but we either make a conscious decision to do so, or we continue to go on like this. We also need to start voting, the percentage of Black people that actually vote is shameful, we need to start and not just voting for president. So many people in Mr. Bell's community are upset about the decision but how many of them actually went out to vote for the District Attorney?? I don't know anymore...my heart is so heavy right now. R.I.P SEAN BELL
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