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Black Face In French Vogue?+Real Housewives Demanding Syndication Money?!

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So there is a 14-page French Vogue spread featuring model Lara Stone in blackface/black body coming out. It's sending lots of folks into an uproar.

Some folks say this was a cheap gimmick with an empty purpose. Others say it's an interpretation of high fashion. But what are your thoughts?

In other news, "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" are clamoring around trying to get artist credentials. Why? So they can get a cut of the big bucks Bravo is about to ring in off their syndicated episodes of the show on their sister networks. The issue is: EVERY housewife signed a contract stating they would not be paid as an actor due to the "reality show" nature of the program. But y'all know that's not stopping these Atlanta Housewives. Here's what one of them allegedly said about it:
“This is some bull shit, we’ve been fighting their as* for the longest to keep the show from going to syndication without us making a dime … Damn, we not getting a dime and they making all the money… WOW … They can play the show forever and we will never get a check that aint right.”
Source Probably should have negotiated that before signing that contract all quick because you're extra excited about being a "star". Speaking of these chicks, the previews for tonight's show are under the cut... Tonight on a new episode of the Real Housewives of ATL, Shereé has just 4 days until the "She by Sheree" fashion show and invites her friend over to preview her samples. But when she reveals that Dwight is helping to produce the show, the two get nervous that he can pull it all off with Shereé’s vision. Meanwhile, Kim gets a surprise from her wig stylist when he comes over to prep her for an event, and NeNe is shocked when her uncle sets up an impromptu meeting with the man claiming to be her real dad. Will she be able to go through with the meeting?
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beautifuldaidreamer is

beautifuldaidreamer is still on a Maxwell high...: French Vogue is on some other shit. High fashion my ass! If they wanted a black model, just use one!</P CO-SIGN! Thank You.
GTFOH!'s picture

Those ladies will be paid.

Those ladies will be paid.
Vicciann's picture

I wanted to type a response

I wanted to type a response as soon as I saw the black faced model. For some reason I like to see the interpertation of what a white model thinks a black model exudes and then see it is different or maybe not so different, and then inherit the lesson Different but not so different! Perfect art imitates life or vice versa
Vicciann's picture

2b on a tv show wanting

2b on a tv show wanting others 2 believe you are all that it comes with and show yourself in a light that's less becoming of your mindset, leaves one to wonder how in the world could the atlanta housewives have been so stupid to have signed a contract without a lawyer? Fame does have a price and it's too bad they won't get paid....But at least they have shown us what a black woman should aviod trying to be. Besides the show should be canceled anyway it's a disgrace to the black community everywhere!....Have you ever seen a black woman in a epsiode on the Housewives of Orange County....and i will bet in the future they get paid as ACTors!
junior's picture

I think the French Vogue

I think the French Vogue spread is nice. I don't the photographer/the people working for the spread were trying to be "racist" or whatever.
liyah's picture

Simply you you can't serve

Simply you you can't serve sh** covered in powdered sugar on a silver platter and call it a donut. Yes there are components of a high fashion shoot - styling, make up, clothing, expensive photographer, glossy magazine. BUT IT IS STILL BLACKFACE. No they didn't burn cork and smear it on her body (that is the original way they did blackface) but they painted her to look African descent- which is the root of blackface. No she isn't shucking and jiving, & she does strike a mean pose, but WHY BROWN? Others have already said why not red, orange, blue? They chose brown specifically because someone thought it would be fun to let the model ride the Melanin Safari & make her look black. If they wanted a brown girl they should have chosen the many struggling black models. We don't think its weird or stupid- It's just offensive to use the brown make up. Sammus explained perfectly why it's offensive for whites to imitate blacks and not vice versa. Think of it as the sibling rule. Growing up you and your siblings cracked jokes on eachother and fought, but as soon as somebody who wasn't family did the same thing, you were ready to fight for your sibling. This is why this and the n-word debate will continue. Like it matters at this point: I thought i had a lot to say butJYGALO said it all.First off, how many people on this site really read VOGUE, no, how many have even picked up a VOGUE mag?Exactly, question answered.And to call this blackface??? But why am i not offended when i see it as a breathtaking artistic form of expression.Most don’t understand high-end fashion, and just like myself it is as weird or stupid.Two very simple words that simple-minded people can’t fathom to pick up a thesaurus, oops I mean dictionary so that you can quit being so “simple-minded.”I was at work the other day and a few called me over and said, oh yeah, watch this, these are her kind of shoes, only speaking about the hottest shoes talked about right now…Alexander McQueen, if you don’t know, the shoes, as well as this spread are definitely not for the Beyonce and Ciara wannabes.This is why Lady GAGA would have been the number 1 discussion had it not been for cry me a river Taylor (I always look like i’m going to the prom) Swift! Yes, I ranted!!
Olawd's picture

I dont understand why they

I dont understand why they couldnt just get a black girl to do the shoot?? ^^ I think that pretty much sums up what everyone generally thinks about this. lol
Diddy is the devil's picture

excuse me "white model

excuse me "white model black."
Necy's picture

Its funny how ppl r saying

Its funny how ppl r saying this is art. Real art is understood as art. You can't say Vogue didn't know what they were doing by painting a white model white. I know ppl want to believe that racism is dead, but there is always going to be racism as long as there r different races. Whats sad is, instead of black ppl embracing each other. We are starting to judge each other and down talk each other. Why can't black folks motivate each other and uplift each other. I don't care what race u r, but you should still be proud of it, because if u don't love your ppl, how can u say anything about anyone in regards to race.
Necy's picture

It annoys me to see everyone

It annoys me to see everyone bickering about race. The fact is, this is not a racially driven spread. Its meant to be artistic. I regularly read French and American Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, WWD and many other fashion magazines because I work in the fashion industry. There are plenty of black models that are featured in these fashion spreads and throughout the magazine, but you wouldn't know this unless you're a regular subscriber. There's nothing vulgar or offensive about it. Its actually considered to be avant garde. If they had the model doing something that was considered a black stereotype then I can sympathize with anyone being upset. But there is nothing stereotypical about this at all.
ECC's picture

High fashion in itself is

High fashion in itself is often a cheap gimmick with an empty purpose as far as im concerned...
Anartist's picture

I guess there's just not

I guess there's just not enough high fashioned black models in the industry that can pull of this look (sarcasm)...? WTF... black face and the history of it is degrading and no matter the reason it was done was incensitive.. Especially since there are so many black models in the industry that can pull of this high fashion look with their OWN black skin... TYRA BANKS... You have a talk show... You and Heidi Klum should DO SOMETHING about this shit...
Reality Please's picture

I don't think that's a fair

I don't think that's a fair comparison (the Wayans brothers and this model), given the history. There is a sense of entitlement (whether you think it is correct or incorrect) on the part of black people in that we suffered for many years, and we are therefore ENTITLED to make commentary about white people, that they cannot and should not make about us. We CAN talk about white people in our stand up comedy acts, we can dress up as white people and make fun of the way they act...why? Well the justification is essentially the years of racism, slavery and discrimination that has stemmed from that place in history. So the Wayans dressing up as white people is NOT the same as a white model dressing up in a way that is reminiscent of a style that embodies racism and a lack of respect for Black people. What did white people endure as a result of our existence? msbliss: Some of us black folk R so quick to throw out the race card its retarded. Marlon & shawn wore makeup 2 look like two “white chicks” But if it were two white men actin like the “sistas” it would be WW3 with some of u.we need to hold ourselves 2 the same we do others. I black history & these photos look nothing like the blackface I’ve seen from that era.it looks high fashion & she looks chic NOT sitting on the steps eating watermelon or tap dancin on a stage. The pics kindof reminded me of Beyonce in Dreamgirls when she wore the real dark body makeup. We need to really stop the foolishness & educate ourselves & focus on REAL issues.
Sammus's picture

You're really talking a bunch

You're really talking a bunch of stupid sh*t below. If you don't have anything intelligent to add to the dialogue, please just shut your damn fool mouth. "I think the fact that it’s brown makes it different. I honestly don’t even like being called black. I AM CLEARLY BROWN." Whoever: I don’t consider this spread to be in blackface. I think the fact that it’s brown makes it different. I honestly don’t even like being called black. I AM CLEARLY BROWN. Nonetheless, I think the spread is still tasteless! Why cover her in brown paint when they could have hired a brown model! This ish makes me angry! Anyon
Steve D.'s picture

its vogue u bastards..when do

its vogue u bastards..when do u ever see any black models in vogue and its called being racist and not wanting to hire a black model, ppl do things on purpose just to make us mad and angry but thats why we need to do something about stuff like this instead of jus postig it on the internet for everyone to read and nothing gets done ..dumbasses
ashboogie's picture

And I have had subscriptions

And I have had subscriptions to Vogue magazine for the fashion aspect and creativity, but this is offensive. Since we are getting to the point where we will accept anything guess they will have us as slaves again next! There are many Afro Americans that read vogue magazine, there are many of us that are in the fashion industry and are fashion enthusiasts, so we can't assume that minorities don't read vogue and for that reason we don't understand the statement they were trying to make, there is no statement it's offensive. how would they feel if we made a spread in essence showing us with pale with flat backsides with stringy hair over bleached hair? no one would think that was art would they? no matter how some want to look at this it is not "art", and art alot of times is offensive for those who really know it.
Tati's picture

the blackface is offensive,

the blackface is offensive, i'm getting tired of seeing blackface in recent movies and overseas. how can we not be offended by it? for years, centuries whites have shown us that they do not respect us as a race. no other race of people are made as fools like african americans, i'm sick and tired of it! whites claimed it was art when they were doing blackface and tap dancing with white gloves on the stage it was art, they are jealous of afro americans and try their best to put us down and make us as a race and our culture look retarded. pissed!
Tati's picture

*History (for the people

*History (for the people who've never misspelled a word in their life) *snickers while typing*
msbliss's picture

I thought i had a lot to say

I thought i had a lot to say but JYGALO said it all. First off, how many people on this site really read VOGUE, no, how many have even picked up a VOGUE mag? Exactly, question answered. And to call this blackface??? But why am i not offended when i see it as a breathtaking artistic form of expression. Most don't understand high-end fashion, and just like myself it is classified as weird or stupid. Two very simple words that simple-minded people can't fathom to pick up a thesaurus, oops I mean dictionary so that you can quit being so "simple-minded." I was at work the other day and a few called me over and said, oh yeah, watch this, these are her kind of shoes, only speaking about the hottest shoes talked about right now...Alexander McQueen, if you don't know, the shoes, as well as this spread are definitely not for the Beyonce and Ciara wannabes. This is why Lady GAGA would have been the number 1 discussion had it not been for cry me a river Taylor (I always look like i'm going to the prom) Swift! Yes, I ranted!!
Like it matters at this point's picture

I don't know how familiar

I don't know how familiar some of u R with ur histroy But during the time of the original blackface & well into the late 60s Many black performers fled to France because of the easy going attitude about race & to make a good living doing their talent while also getting the recognition they couldn't in the States. Josephine baker was adored by the french! They sold cream to women who wanted her "dark" complexion! She was apart of high society & they gave her fame she never would have here! The Nicholas brothers,richard wright(one of the first big black writers & one of my heros! & many more. Before u label something get all the facts. France, esp Paris is a very diverse community then & NOW. A lot of black performers went there for the respect both white & blacks HERE never gave them. If u doubt it then look the shit up! We need to really educate ourselves like I said before. My God!
msbliss's picture

i would understand if they

i would understand if they painted the models different colors like bronze, gold, copper, silver, etc. but they are all black... so it comes off as black face. they should have thought about that A LITTLE more. wha-whomp :/
Leah's picture

my thoughts: echoed sentiment

my thoughts: echoed sentiment -- why not get a Black model?? as for the RHoA, heffas please.... stop it.
dreamstar1's picture

Stacey: “black folks get on

Stacey: “black folks get on my nerves” - that is the dumb quote of the day. If you read this and go off, whatever, just realize that you should refrain from saying stupid things like that. As my mama says only your own can break it down and tell you about yourself. And I don't "go off" but yes, black folks get on my nerves. Perhaps I should clarify: ignorant black folks. Here we have a black Prez, but Oprah has Jay-Z on the cover of her magazine like he did something worthy of praise; folks clamoring to see R-Kelly when it was always well known how young he liked them; Beyonce is ever loved...for...lyrics about kitty kat and how much money she has? Not just picking on them but to me but the successful black entertainers these days are the minstrels...performing for who? Please. One has only to view some of the comments here so see the ignorance that abounds..so yes...call it stupid if you will...I call it like I see it. Meanwhile, an interracial couple gets denied a marriage license in New Orleans of all places...that, my dear, is stupid.
JYGALO's picture

I think it's art. We can

I think it's art. We can interpret this however we choose. I think it beautiful in a way. I like it.
Oxyclean's picture

Tasteful or not. It should

Tasteful or not. It should not have been done. Considering the history of blackface and the way it affected the black community was damaging enough to where there are insecurities in our community to this day that may not ever be fixed. With black women being compared to white women on a regular basis, and constantly referred to as the negative. This could easily be seen as black women would look better had they had white features. I hate to take it there but with the things that I have seen going on in the black community today. This is not helping.
Necy's picture

I' am going to agree with

I' am going to agree with some of the comments on here, why not just hire a black model from the beginning? The fact is that the editors of Vogue knew this issues would cause controversy so they gave it a green light anyway. So sad in 2009 we still have to stoop so low to use racism as art or high fashion instead of trying to come up with new ideals and ways to break the mold and push the limits that doesn't offend anyone. This Vogue cover is just lazy and a cheap shot to what Italian vogue accomplished with their black issue. Sorry but you can dress up trash in anyway shape form you want too but at the end of the day this it is still trash. I' am not offended by the vogue issues but I' am not happy about it either so they are still not getting business for me. It is sad that the black woman is still trying to find a spotlight in the world of fashion and beauty...SMH
binky's picture

JYGALO: Blackface referred

JYGALO: Blackface referred to the minstrel shows…clearly this is not the case. Black folks get on my nerves…who r we trying to emulate when we wear long weave, colored contacts, and bleached blonde (eww) hair? So now it is in vogue to emulate black folks…complete with dark skin…and u wanna cry foul…fyi, when they dress up models as geisha or in kimonos the asian culture isnt up in arms…geeshthey could paint the model green for all i care…i like it…the pics are beautiful…shows all that a beautiful woman is even more so when black "black folks get on my nerves" - that is the dumb quote of the day. If you read this and go off, whatever, just realize that you should refrain from saying stupid things like that.
Stacey's picture

French middle class can be

French middle class can be very rascist just look how they treat their minorities and institutionaly discriminate then, however this spread on the magazin is not rascist, its different.The images are not distaisful, but they do not lack black models in France.
danny girl's picture

I see no point in the

I see no point in the pics...but I am not offended either... it seems like an overly creative idea gone wrong. But then again, I don't know the intent behind the shoot.
Keli's picture

neo: is that black face or

neo: is that black face or a white girl with a really dark spray on tan. I mean, white women who go into those boths to get darker,are they dark faced? Minstrels were to make fun of blacks, i’ve seen the musuem shows, those pictures are ART. It’s done so graceful. Yet, are blacks putting on white face (Tyra, BEyonce, rihanna) dying thier hair blonde, blonde wigs. lighter makeup, are they paying tribute to somthing of beauty or putting on the reversal inner black face. something to think about. Co-sign. Wasn't there just a post about some child wearing fake butt pads and the self-haters came about talking about how it ws too big and a big butt is nasty and all of that...we cant even embrace our own damn assets U r right...so much self hate...it's really a damn shame....especially amongst black women...why cant we all be beautiful and demand respect from the brothas? why?
JYGALO's picture

Blackface referred to the

Blackface referred to the minstrel shows...clearly this is not the case. Black folks get on my nerves...who r we trying to emulate when we wear long weave, colored contacts, and bleached blonde (eww) hair? So now it is in vogue to emulate black folks...complete with dark skin...and u wanna cry foul... fyi, when they dress up models as geisha or in kimonos the asian culture isnt up in arms...geesh they could paint the model green for all i care...i like it...the pics are beautiful...shows all that a beautiful woman is even more so when black
JYGALO's picture

Blackface is just not cool

Blackface is just not cool and everyone knows that or should know that. I don't give a damn what couture, name brand you dress her in. The origin of blackface ALONE should make this OFF LIMITS. Everyone that is saying that this is art - you know that the heads of Vogue knew that this would be offensive to some, right?? I guess to you its fine, as long as you can put an "its art" angle on it, well its not. The photographers knew that but obviously they wanted to push the limit and see if they could get away with offensive crap. Blackface is not cool whether it is in Vogue, US Weekly, etc. For Vogue to not care enough to pull this shoot from the mag, they just lost a customer. I am truly dissapointed in anyone that calls this art. That's just society today, we tolerate and accept so many things that nothing is off limits. We disrespect others, ourselves, etc and don't think anything of it.
Stacey's picture

French Vogue you're goin

French Vogue you're goin down. Sesilee Lopez would've been perfect for that shoot
ICECAUGHTTHEBEYITIS's picture

This post is full of fake ass

This post is full of fake ass subject matter. Fake black models and fake ass, no money, housewives. FAKE FAKE FAKE
wak's picture

does anyone remember on

does anyone remember on americas next top model tyra had a shoot where she made ppl diff races??? (an early season when it was actually good)
peace, love, and... DRAKE!!'s picture

why waste all the make up

why waste all the make up when u could have jus used a black model
Monique's picture

Just because you slap the

Just because you slap the title "high fashion" on something doesn't make it okay nor does it make it artistic. They know they could've found a black model who would've been more than willing to pose in Italian vogue.
Newpaltzgirl's picture

Princess Pink: all right.

Princess Pink: all right. Next time you hear about some crazy 80 year old shooting a black police officer in DC or when a ego filled cop decides to shoot and kill some black kids because he is bored or another company comes up with another gimmick to insult the President’s race and his First Lady…I just want you to shrug your shoulders and say “we do it too” smh The reason why some black people act in this manner is due to the institituional racism and difficulty of having to adjust to living in a white society. The black face/model is unacceptable. There are already too few black models in the first place. We have young black girls in our society being told black is not beautiful vis a vie the media and its blatant portrayal of european beauty. This is an insult and a slap in the face. They could have gotten one of the few black models we have to do this shoot.
ImJ's picture

This is just amazing - a

This is just amazing - a co-worker & I JUST had this convo today. My opinion is blackface on ANY fourm is less than tacky & shows the lack of consideration the company has for people of color. I'm ashamed.
Myeisha's picture

I think the Laura looks

I think the Laura looks fantastic... looks high fashion to me and very beautiful.. but you know how some people do..
Miss GQ's picture

idc at the end of the day all

idc at the end of the day all i know is that they give me somethin to laugh about. and why would you sign a contract if u didnt agree to the terms?
michelle's picture

The photos look good but it's

The photos look good but it's racist because they excluded the actual black models who could have done the job without them wasting that makeup
chillchic's picture

Princess Pink: all right.

Princess Pink: all right. Next time you hear about some crazy 80 year old shooting a black police officer in DC or when a ego filled cop decides to shoot and kill some black kids because he is bored or another company comes up with another gimmick to insult the President’s race and his First Lady…I just want you to shrug your shoulders and say “we do it too” smh LOL! Good point! And just because we do it (you all actually, because I don't) that does not make it right!
Whoever's picture

DenieDallas u hit it rite ON!

DenieDallas u hit it rite ON!
msbliss's picture

MsDonnaGirl: RHOA- No

MsDonnaGirl: RHOA- No comment. Oh, just one:Silly birds.French Vogue- I just don’t think that the publishers would be so shortsighted as to do something to intentionally alienate a good part of their readership. Whether or not using a black model would have had the same photographic and visual effect is debatable. I do wonder sometimes why some are so eager to assume a racist intention to an expression, but find “art” in the mysogoney, materialism, and lack of social couth that we portray in a lot of our popular music- as a people, to our OWN people… AGREE. I think the spread look fabulous.
ECC's picture

"blackface/black body" is

"blackface/black body" is beautiful, so it's fine. The spread itself is very artistic.I don't see it as a cheap gimmick at all, hence, it screams high fashion to me! Lawdamercy, whateva @ the housewives....I'll be watching 2nite..lol.
Barack is the man!'s picture

If the RHOA are members of

If the RHOA are members of SAG then they would be actors, hence the right to be paid for episodes in syndication. They are not actors and didn't negotiate these rights under their signed contracts. However, moving forward they should use this to their advantage for participating in future seasons. This is not black face it's fashion.
Wynter's picture

msbliss: NEO…u have a very

msbliss: NEO…u have a very good point. Like I said the shit doesn’t look “offensive” 2 me. We degrade each other all day every day BUT when a white person does it everybody wants 2 jump in. I made my point & its the truth. Negros R their own worse enemy I swear. So quick to talk about any little irrelevant shit & make it a cause. We do way MORE harm to each other than anyone else does 2 us. all right. Next time you hear about some crazy 80 year old shooting a black police officer in DC or when a ego filled cop decides to shoot and kill some black kids because he is bored or another company comes up with another gimmick to insult the President's race and his First Lady...I just want you to shrug your shoulders and say "we do it too" smh
Princess Pink's picture

I don't see any problem with

I don't see any problem with the Vogue shoot.
Black Betty Boop's picture

Princess Pink: no hun,

Princess Pink: no hun, they are simply conforming to the ignorantly ridiculous european/white definition of beauty Exactly! HUGE DIFFERENCE!
Whoever's picture

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