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Black Males Feel BASHED By "For Colored Girls" Movie?

Tyler Perry's "For Colored Girls" movie may have raked in the dough to the tune of $20.1 millie and landed at the #3 spot at the Box Office opening weekend (even though it was shown on half as many screens as the #1 and #2 movies).  But even with the relative success of his stage play adaptation, there are some (possibly many) black men who are up in arms about how the movie put them in a bad light to the rest of the world.

 

Y'all know I have my thoughts on that ish.  But check out the article written by a black male Washington Post writer who blames Tyler for the way black men are portrayed in movies, especially in his latest.

Washington Post writer Courtland Milloy took a slightly comedic approach to his For Colored Girl complaints that I personally heard from other black men as well this weekend.   Here's the article (some parts removed for length reasons):

 

Can anyone name a movie that came out recently starring a black man who wasn't a sociopath? Someone who had a terrific screen presence, like a young Paul Robeson? And he portrayed a character who was complex and fully drawn? Did he respect black women, too?

Anybody saw that movie? I didn't. But surely it's out there somewhere, right? An alternative to those Tyler Perry films portraying black men as Satan's gift to black women? But where is it?

Maybe I didn't hear about it because of all the buzz over Perry's "For Colored Girls," which opened Friday and is based on Ntozake Shange's 1975 stage play, "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow is Enuf."

Or maybe I didn't hear about it because I was retching too loudly after seeing "For Colored Girls" - and reading so many inexplicably glowing reviews.

"This movie is powerful," Demetria L. Lucas wrote recently in Essence, the nation's premier magazine for black women. "It is incredible. The performances in it are astonishing, but most of all, this film will leave you lifted."

Me, I thought the movie should have renamed: For Black Men Who Have Considered Homicide After Watching Another Perry Movie.

"Oscar buzz, breaking news," read the Hollywood Reporter on Friday. "Will 'For Colored Girls' blindside Tyler Perry's critics?"

Too late. I was blindsided while watching the movie, especially when superstar Janet Jackson appeared on screen looking like Michael Jackson with breast implants.
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"Don't laugh," says Shadow and Act, an online publication about black films and filmmakers. " 'For Colored Girls,' an Oscar contender?"

Oscar for what?

In the category for best infection of a black woman with a sexually transmitted disease that renders her infertile. . . . And the winner is: Black man.

For best down-low, double-dealing husband who has sex with wife while sneaking around having sex with men on the streets. . . . And the winner is: Black man.
 

What an awful year for movies featuring black actors. Samuel L. Jackson in "Unthinkable." Thoughtless would be more like it. "Brooklyn's Finest" had a nice cast, with Don Cheadle and Wesley Snipes. But Richard Gere and Ethan Hawke got top billing. "Our Family Wedding" with Forrest Whitaker was okay. But how many black wedding comedies can you watch. Even preacher T.D. Jakes is coming out with his own copycat wedding movie next year.

Surely Spike Lee and Denzel Washington could team up for a sweeping historical drama - say, a black sharecropper's son, educated in a one-room schoolhouse built by slaves in Alabama, who grows up to become one of Wall Street's most powerful CEOs.

Smarter than Gordon Gekko, but more complex. With a cameo appearance by former Merrill Lynch chief executive Stanley O'Neal.

Maybe you saw the kind of movie I'm talking about. If not, maybe it's time to make one.

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Hmm.  My take?  This movie was a true representation of real and horrific events that many black women (and women of all races) suffer through during their lives.  Many of those events are at the hands of men.  And in For Colored Girls, at the hands of black men specifically.  But we can't and shouldn't ignore these things simply because of the ignorant folks who will generalize a few men on a movie screen to all 20 million+ black men in America.

In my experiences in life (and even backed up by a few controversial scientific studies), black women are treated without empathy, without respect, without praise, and quite honestly, worse than the other gender and many other races.  I would go so far as to say one of the worst when it comes to how we are perceived --thanks to sweeping and usually incorrect stereotypes perpetuated by the masses and media.  This movie truthfully and tastefully showcases these hardships women go through on the daily like abortion and rape and molestation and oversexualization and cheating and STDs.  So if the movie slightly affects how black men are perceived, then so be it.  At what point do we stand up and take a bold stance to air out the issues in order to combat them?  When will we have to stop apologizing for being a black woman?  We have these issues--which many times include the black man--and they need to be addressed.  PERIOD.  If we don't address them, who will?

The last thing on my mind while watching this movie was, "I wonder how the black man feels."  There were MUCH bigger issues at hand.  And quite honestly, the black men who felt threatened by the visuals and actions of the men portrayed on the screen, should maybe channel that anger into changing the root of the problem in their own communities.

I do agree with Mr. Milloy, however, that this was far from an uplifting movie.  I barely found half of a moment of joy or upliftment.  The ish was depressing.  But needed. 

While Tyler is not responsible for the original literary work, he did make it come to life on a large Hollywood scale, which made it even more powerful.  I had to have not one, but SEVERAL drinks after seeing the movie.  So yes, it was difficult to process or even discuss right away.  And instead of missing the entire point of it all and whine about how it made black men look, how about we focus on the fact these ARE relevant problems to our community today.  And we should focus on fixing that fact.

Your thoughts?

 

FYI: Tyler stated on his interview on the "Today Show" that he took it upon himself to add in Hill Harper's cop character (the only "good guy" in the movie), as he didn't want his fellow brothas to feel and appear totally bashed.  He commented that he wanted to show a different, more loving side of the black male.

 

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I just want to know one

I just want to know one thing.IS TYLER PERRY REALLY A DUDE???He seems to lack a pair,as he continually makes movies which gladden racists'(and fat,fugly,b***hy black broads')hearts. Along with "The Colour Purple,""The Blind Side," and other fare which reners us black lads perverted and/or mentally deficient,NO WONDER someone such as myself-a Hollywood leading- man handsome,57-year-old black Canadian man whose acting career should have begun two generations ago-has seen my acting aspirations long deferred!!!
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Now you are weak, be a man

Now you are weak, be a man and own your choices.
Jason's picture

Get over yourself you sad

Get over yourself you sad excuse for a punk black man. You feel threatened cause you know you're a part of the majority of BM like in this movie. Dont hate, just fix yourself and things will get better! :)
Anonymous's picture

Wow . Please look at

Wow . Please look at yourselves. You all sound like a bunch of idiots. Just shut the fuck up? Damn.
Anonymous's picture

Wow . Please look at

Wow . Please look at yourselves. You all sound like a bunch of idiots. Just shut the fuck up? Damn.
Anonymous's picture

All I have to say is that

All I have to say is that people believe and go by what they know. I'm not afraid to say that I am 17 years old and I just recently saw this movie. All these issues and themes have made appearances in my life already. They are nothing new. If black men feel bashed it's because they want to feel bashed. They need somebody to blame for shedding some light on issues that most definitely do occur in the black community. Now with that bein said, the same situations that occured in this movie, happen in ALL racial communities. That just needed to be said. What I don't understand though, is that people think Tyler Perry is being a sell-out. First of all, his movie were made to get a point across that had nothiong to do with bashing the black man. Secondly, this is just an adaptation of SOMEONE ELSE'S previous work into movie form. Don't put the blame on Tyler Perry because he has nothing to do with it. Lastly, I by no means, think or believe that all black men are bad because right along with the bad representations of black men in my short life, I have VERY good ones. And yes, I agree that maybe some people go out of their way to generalize the black man as one specific stereotype, but all of you who are not worthy of theses false accusations, maybe you should step up and make yourself known and an example for the young black boys near you, because this behavior is starting young. I should know. Now with all of that being said, my fellow black sisters, we know that we have our own issues and imperfections that we must correct before we go about, blaming all the world's problems on black men. Get yourself right so that you can have discernment about what type of man you allow into your life, that way you won't have to always be a victim of a "bad" brotha. What we all as a race need to do as a whole is take time out and do some self-examination and self-correction so that we can change the perception of the world on black america. Don't have to listen to this 17 year old black girl from Ohio if you don't want to but I'm tellin you, when it gets to the point that everybody feels threatened over somethin as simple as a movie.............. theres something wrong with the world. And by the way, when I finished watching this movie, I didn't have a single negative thought about black men. I thanked God that I have good black men in my life that would never do those things to me.
Anonymous's picture

You are absolutely

You are absolutely incredible. Such words as these and so well put together from a 17 year old, I'm almost speechless. Very well said dear.
Anonymous's picture

His movie leaves out valuable

His movie leaves out valuable part the play which make look like satin in human form
Anonymous's picture

His movie leaves out valuable

His movie leaves out valuable part the play which make look like satin in human form
Anonymous's picture

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BlackSteelStudBrett1953's picture

First of all stop writing

First of all stop writing with all those caps. The movie was typical Black man-bashing at it's worst. The formula never changes--black women perfect/Black men the devil. it's tired. Black women need to develop the emotional maturity to see a movie as just that--a movie. And guess what--you not perfect either. Let someone do a run of movies where EVERY black women is a monster and see the howls. You can't run down gays or jews or Arabs but you can denigrate black men freely smh
Jason's picture

If you are good man then you

If you are good man then you don't have to worry. But the scene are what some women go through. Pregnant at a young age-afraid to tell anyone so they collect money to get an abortion. It is true that the MAJORITY of men are on the downlow, afraid to go to the doctor, rapist, cheat. To allievate the problems sometimes you have to face the truth. A lot of men are afraid to deal with the truth and tend to do the blame game. For instance, if a black man can't get a job they blame the white man. Sometimes the truth hurt, but you have to face it, deal with it, and work together in solving the problem. People as a whole will never solve an issue if they keep blaming others for their problems and face that they have a problem and solve it. This what the movie portray. Not all guys are like that as far as the male characters in the movie but some women do rape men, but the majority of men do rape.
Anonymous's picture

I'm not male blashing. Im

I'm not male blashing. Im speaking the truth. Our generation been through alot and they pave the way for us. Some there is no excuse to blame others for our problems. Black men start taking your place, and be a leader. Stop being motivated by the rap artist, stop thinking that you're a man b/c you can get all the women u want, and when the real test come for instance, you get someone pregnant-you be the first one to use the blame game, and run off. Be there for you're children-not only financially but emotionally, mentally, teach them the way, learn how to pride yourself in hardwork, and not pride yourself in getting all the women & being entice by them. Let it be okay to be real and truthful-and stop playing games with people's heart & emotions. That's why some women are scared and feel like they have to be control. If you are a leader then a woman will submit to u. And i saw a comment, of one girl saying that they hate the black man, heal your heart sweetheart, and stop blaming a whole entire race for your issue. By your comment i can tell that u been hurt by a black man but stop blaming them all cause some fool broke your heart. women learn how to LOVE the black man, build them up, stop talking down on them-support them and build them up through good times and bad times. Also women stop ripping others apart with the gossiping. And women be more wiser when it comes to men, and you are more than your hips, tight clothing, and thighs. Remember to love, accept the truth, fix the majority of the problem within the black community and live in peace. How are we going to fix the problem if we afraid to face the truth
Anonymous's picture

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL BASHED...MAYBE IT WILL PROVOKE THEIR SORRY AS*S INTO ACTION AND CHANGING THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. BLACK MEN HAVE MISTREATED AND DEVALUED BLACK WOMEN FOR GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO..THEY ABANDON BLACK WOMEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GO TAKE CARE OF A WHITE WOMAN'S CHILDREN...THEY DEGRADE THEIR OWN BLACK WOMEN IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY AND PUT BLACK WOMEN THRU (SOMETIMES) IRREPARABLE DAMAGE..THEY HAVE DROPPED THE BALL AND OVERALL HAVE LACKED SEVERELY IN THEIR ROLES OF FATHERS AND HUSBANDS..AND THEN THEY GOT A NERVE TO SAY THEY FEEL BASHED? THEY NEED TO FEEL BASHED....THEY ARE A SORRY GROUP OF LOSERS..INSTEAD OF CHEATING, GETTING HIGH, STAYING UNEMPLOYED WON'T YOU ALL START TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE KILLING OUR GENERATION..WITH SO MANY GOING AFTER WHITE WOMEN THEY ARE MAKING THE BLACK RACE EXTINCT AND TEACHING THEIR DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS THAT THEY ARE LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO SOCIETY'S STANDARDS.THEY HAVE JOINED THE ENEMY IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK WOMEN AND THE BLACK RACE...I HATE BLACK MEN..THEY ARE RETARDED AND STUPID....I WILL NEVER DATE ANOTHER BLACK MEN AS LONG AS I LIVE...
Anonymous's picture

It is a sad moment and a

It is a sad moment and a reason why it is like it is. For everything to be, there was a cause; and the effect is now more exposed than ever. Why is it like it is? The process of "divide and conquer", was and still is used during our presence in this captivity. To pit the Black man against The Black Woman and so you have a situation that cannot be solved, only by total elimination. It has so deeply been instilled in the black family, that any program designed by any one, will not work because history has never been taught to our people. A man without a history, has no knowledge of the future, because he cannot root himself into anything , in order to determine the desitiny of that people. No understanding of history, no understanding of how to solve it, will never end this advent. It is designed from the beginning by those who enslaved us unto this day and will never allow the black family to become totally independent from him. The Black Family must be totally destroyed but those who set out to do that, will face their own destruction. It is too late for the masses of black men and women to alter their ways because it has festered too long in their minds and they have attached themselves to the ways of the captor. Many will never move forward for certain, regardless of how much money and fame is put to their faces. Sad but true. The Almighty God is definitely involved in this process and He knows exactly what, how, when and who was involved for certain. The time has come for changes to take place and many will never accept change.
Anonymous's picture

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL BASHED...MAYBE IT WILL PROVOKE THEIR SORRY AS*S INTO ACTION AND CHANGING THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. BLACK MEN HAVE MISTREATED AND DEVALUED BLACK WOMEN FOR GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO..THEY ABANDON BLACK WOMEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GO TAKE CARE OF A WHITE WOMAN'S CHILDREN...THEY DEGRADE THEIR OWN BLACK WOMEN IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY AND PUT BLACK WOMEN THRU (SOMETIMES) IRREPARABLE DAMAGE..THEY HAVE DROPPED THE BALL AND OVERALL HAVE LACKED SEVERELY IN THEIR ROLES OF FATHERS AND HUSBANDS..AND THEN THEY GOT A NERVE TO SAY THEY FEEL BASHED? THEY NEED TO FEEL BASHED....THEY ARE A SORRY GROUP OF LOSERS..INSTEAD OF CHEATING, GETTING HIGH, STAYING UNEMPLOYED WON'T YOU ALL START TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE KILLING OUR GENERATION..WITH SO MANY GOING AFTER WHITE WOMEN THEY ARE MAKING THE BLACK RACE EXTINCT AND TEACHING THEIR DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS THAT THEY ARE LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO SOCIETY'S STANDARDS.THEY HAVE JOINED THE ENEMY IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK WOMEN AND THE BLACK RACE...I HATE BLACK MEN..THEY ARE RETARDED AND STUPID....I WILL NEVER DATE ANOTHER BLACK MEN AS LONG AS I LIVE...
Anonymous's picture

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL BASHED...MAYBE IT WILL PROVOKE THEIR SORRY AS*S INTO ACTION AND CHANGING THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. BLACK MEN HAVE MISTREATED AND DEVALUED BLACK WOMEN FOR GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO..THEY ABANDON BLACK WOMEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GO TAKE CARE OF A WHITE WOMAN'S CHILDREN...THEY DEGRADE THEIR OWN BLACK WOMEN IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY AND PUT BLACK WOMEN THRU (SOMETIMES) IRREPARABLE DAMAGE..THEY HAVE DROPPED THE BALL AND OVERALL HAVE LACKED SEVERELY IN THEIR ROLES OF FATHERS AND HUSBANDS..AND THEN THEY GOT A NERVE TO SAY THEY FEEL BASHED? THEY NEED TO FEEL BASHED....THEY ARE A SORRY GROUP OF LOSERS..INSTEAD OF CHEATING, GETTING HIGH, STAYING UNEMPLOYED WON'T YOU ALL START TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE KILLING OUR GENERATION..WITH SO MANY GOING AFTER WHITE WOMEN THEY ARE MAKING THE BLACK RACE EXTINCT AND TEACHING THEIR DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS THAT THEY ARE LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO SOCIETY'S STANDARDS.THEY HAVE JOINED THE ENEMY IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK WOMEN AND THE BLACK RACE...I HATE BLACK MEN..THEY ARE RETARDED AND STUPID....I WILL NEVER DATE ANOTHER BLACK MEN AS LONG AS I LIVE...
Anonymous's picture

AMEN. I agree so much. They

AMEN. I agree so much. They are a sorry bunch of losers. Never dated one, but have saw what they have done to my friends and family members. I observed and observed even the so-called "good brothas" all before I was truly able to form a liable opinion. If I was tyler perry I would've really hurt their feelings,no one really likes them except for white women. But then again white women see them nothing more then exotic toys for play then garbage once they become the 95% of black men in prison statistic. They're sickening. Only good for keeping the black race alive and nothing more. Useless trash :U.
Anonymous's picture

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL BASHED...MAYBE IT WILL PROVOKE THEIR SORRY AS*S INTO ACTION AND CHANGING THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. BLACK MEN HAVE MISTREATED AND DEVALUED BLACK WOMEN FOR GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO..THEY ABANDON BLACK WOMEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GO TAKE CARE OF A WHITE WOMAN'S CHILDREN...THEY DEGRADE THEIR OWN BLACK WOMEN IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY AND PUT BLACK WOMEN THRU (SOMETIMES) IRREPARABLE DAMAGE..THEY HAVE DROPPED THE BALL AND OVERALL HAVE LACKED SEVERELY IN THEIR ROLES OF FATHERS AND HUSBANDS..AND THEN THEY GOT A NERVE TO SAY THEY FEEL BASHED? THEY NEED TO FEEL BASHED....THEY ARE A SORRY GROUP OF LOSERS..INSTEAD OF CHEATING, GETTING HIGH, STAYING UNEMPLOYED WON'T YOU ALL START TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE KILLING OUR GENERATION..WITH SO MANY GOING AFTER WHITE WOMEN THEY ARE MAKING THE BLACK RACE EXTINCT AND TEACHING THEIR DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS THAT THEY ARE LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO SOCIETY'S STANDARDS.THEY HAVE JOINED THE ENEMY IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK WOMEN AND THE BLACK RACE...I HATE BLACK MEN..THEY ARE RETARDED AND STUPID....I WILL NEVER DATE ANOTHER BLACK MEN AS LONG AS I LIVE...
Anonymous's picture

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL

GOOD. BLACK MEN NEED TO FEEL BASHED...MAYBE IT WILL PROVOKE THEIR SORRY AS*S INTO ACTION AND CHANGING THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM. BLACK MEN HAVE MISTREATED AND DEVALUED BLACK WOMEN FOR GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO..THEY ABANDON BLACK WOMEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GO TAKE CARE OF A WHITE WOMAN'S CHILDREN...THEY DEGRADE THEIR OWN BLACK WOMEN IN THE FACE OF THE ENEMY AND PUT BLACK WOMEN THRU (SOMETIMES) IRREPARABLE DAMAGE..THEY HAVE DROPPED THE BALL AND OVERALL HAVE LACKED SEVERELY IN THEIR ROLES OF FATHERS AND HUSBANDS..AND THEN THEY GOT A NERVE TO SAY THEY FEEL BASHED? THEY NEED TO FEEL BASHED....THEY ARE A SORRY GROUP OF LOSERS..INSTEAD OF CHEATING, GETTING HIGH, STAYING UNEMPLOYED WON'T YOU ALL START TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE KILLING OUR GENERATION..WITH SO MANY GOING AFTER WHITE WOMEN THEY ARE MAKING THE BLACK RACE EXTINCT AND TEACHING THEIR DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS THAT THEY ARE LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ACCORDING TO SOCIETY'S STANDARDS.THEY HAVE JOINED THE ENEMY IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK WOMEN AND THE BLACK RACE...I HATE BLACK MEN..THEY ARE RETARDED AND STUPID....I WILL NEVER DATE ANOTHER BLACK MEN AS LONG AS I LIVE...
Anonymous's picture

the movie was good and will

the movie was good and will love to see it again tyler perry job well done
Anonymousjessica d's picture

why do black mans beat black

why do black mans beat black woman
Anonymousjessica d's picture

lol @ these women falling

lol @ these women falling dead into the trap of turning against their own. LOL Tyler Perry gets all that Jewish/Zionist money for a reason, he is advancing the Illuminati agenda to tear us apart. Good job Tyler Perry wit cha gay ass.
Anonymous's picture

Well, I went to the movie

Well, I went to the movie with a very intelligent male friend, & I have to say that he did not see anything negative about the movie when it came down to the male species. We both had to allow if to settle in before even making a comment on it. I had so many emotions going on at one time with this movie that I did not know what to do. I was angry, upset, sad, confused...amongst many other things. But one thing that I can say is that this does not apply to all Black Men in this world. There are only a handful that this pertain to. When I look at black men I do not see a rapist, a murder, a DL brother, I see a strong black man and I get to see that on a daily basis...My Father! And for the men that feel like it is giving men a bad wrap, if you are so upset about this...maybe just maybe it could be a mirror image of yourself. Most straight men that I have spoken with have had some woman in their life that has encounter one of these actions therefore they are able to relate to the movie as use black women does. As for women, I am glad that Tyler was the voice for us, we are overlooked, pushed to the side, forgotten, mistreated, told we are not worth anything, or we are not pretty enough and this is coming from our own black men. But men are worried about how they are being per trade on a film, that is reality sounds a little selfish to me. Take a moment and think and I am sure you know someone or know someone who know someone that have been in one of those positions as some point in their life.....I HAVE!!!! So don't tell me that black women or women for that matter does not need a voice or someone who can be that voice!!! Thank you so much Tyler for being all that to life on file in Hollywood.
K.R. In Atl, GA's picture

What's a male {species} ?

What's a male {species} ?
Anonymous's picture

I JUST NEED TO SAY JOB WELL

I JUST NEED TO SAY JOB WELL DONE.I AGREE WITH YOU FOR KEEPING IT 100%........MUCH LOVE
EYVONNE's picture

....ppl are always gonna have

....ppl are always gonna have something to say. If he had made a movie depicting the struggles of Black men there would've been a million women complaining about how their problems aren't being noticed. Can we get our foot in the door of the industry before we have our own ppl killing the dream??? Just support Tyler and give feedback on his forum about his movies if you think there's a problem. Complaining to ppl who have no stake whatsoever in how his movies are made isn't gonna help anything...
Maine's picture

Ok, I am not going to dance

Ok, I am not going to dance around the reality of how Black women are now being used in corporate America and politics as gate keepers (in white America) so it's not surprising that many of them refuse to see why we feel negatively toward how Tyler portrays us . Yes I said it. I believe a lot of the sisters no longer recognize the "bashing syndrome" because in their minds many of them believe they have arrived . As long as a "Brother" like Tyler Perry is society's definition of success and he cast sisters in a positive light, then anything Leroy has to say is frivolous. I just wonder if anyone stopped to question which "Black" movies or Black roles get kudos in Hollywood. Here is a list....Precious, Monster's Ball, Brooklyn's Finest, Training Day, Hustle and Flow and I could go on and on but hopefully you get the point. But movies like The Color Purple, X, Ali, A Lesson Before Dying, Glory, Rosewood, and many others never get the coveted Oscar. I have been a business owner for the past 7 years and have noticed how sisters are being strategically placed in corporate and Government positions as a token to dispel any notion of racial bias. Many turn a blind eye to the good ole boy office politics and injustices they see and some even overlook other inappropriate behaviors and remarks leveled at them for the sake of maintaining a certain lifestyle. So I understand clearly why many sisters don't have a problem with how we are villanized on screen, while responsible single father's like myself have to carry the burden of yet another convo about "how brothers treat our women." The sisters have lost the one thing we thought the new world could not take from us......compassion.
kingsef's picture

Natasha Thanks for the forum.

Natasha Thanks for the forum. I am however seeing a trend in responses which continue to veer from your original premise. You stated- "The last thing on my mind while watching this movie was, "I wonder how the black man feels." There were MUCH bigger issues at hand. And quite honestly, the black men who felt threatened by the visuals and actions of the men portrayed on the screen, should maybe channel that anger into changing the root of the problem in their own communities." Many of your readers (and I am not trying to start a shitstorm here) i.e. Minerva, Rsev, RB, Ms. Rosie and Sdot responded in pretty much the same sentiment; Black Men get over it! To your point specifically , and I've asked this on another blog, couldn't mainstream society and doesn't it use the same argument against the Black community? " Hey Black community, if you feel threatened by the visuals and actions of your people portrayed in our media, maybe you should channel that anger..." Do you see where I'm going with this? This is the response our community gets from conservatives all the time. FCG the play was a seminal piece of authentic art that was groundbreaking in its construct and content when it was originally staged. It gave Black women and Black Actresses specifically a new voice. And there were no men in the play! The issues addressed then as now are VERY REAL ISSUES in our community and they deserve serious discussion and attention, no doubt. The question is, does this film adaptation serve as the proper vehicle? And at what cost? In my opinion, its not. These issues should be addressed in a more sociological, psychological and spiritual forum, but a movie? The larger issue at play here is the themes and content of current "Black " film. Movies like FCG get made in Hollywood, and TP uses this imagery because we pay to go see these types of interpretations! I am personally happy for TP and for all that he has overcome in his life to become what he has been become, but I have never paid to see one of his movies. They don't resonate with me, and I find his technique flawed. I have paid to see movies like Eve's Bayou, Love Jones, Hav Plenty and even Black Dynamite. I don't think Black men should just accept the imagery anymore than I think the Black community should accept it when it is done to us.
LurkingnLA's picture

Ok, I am not going to dance

Ok, I am not going to dance around the reality of how Black women are now being used in corporate America and politics as gate keepers (in white America) so it's not surprising that many of them refuse to see why we feel negatively toward how Tyler portrays us . Yes I said it. I believe a lot of the sisters no longer recognize the "bashing syndrome" because in their minds many of them believe they have arrived . As long as a "Brother" like Tyler Perry is society's definition of success and he cast sisters in a positive light, then anything Leroy has to say is frivolous. I just wonder if anyone stopped to question which "Black" movies or Black roles get kudos in Hollywood. Here is a list....Precious, Monster's Ball, Brooklyn's Finest, Training Day, Hustle and Flow and I could go on and on but hopefully you get the point. But movies like The Color Purple, X, Ali, A Lesson Before Dying, Glory, Rosewood, and many others never get the coveted Oscar. I have been a business owner for the past 7 years and have noticed how sisters are being strategically placed in corporate and Government positions as a token to dispel any notion of racial bias. Many turn a blind eye to the good ole boy office politics and injustices they see and some even overlook other inappropriate behaviors and remarks leveled at them for the sake of maintaining a certain lifestyle. So I understand clearly why many sisters don't have a problem with how we are villanized on screen, while responsible single father's like myself have to carry the burden of yet another convo about "how brothers treat our women." The sisters have lost the one thing we thought the new world could not take from us......compassion.
kingsef's picture

His reviewwasfunny but i cant

His reviewwasfunny but i cant say I agree with him.Firstof all notall of Perry's film bashed women.Even when there were horrible man in the movie but there werealso some good example too ( Diary of a mad blackwoman Why did i get married) so it thought that was unfair.Second of all like Natasha said If the issues are there in our communities , and make no mistake about it they are, them light need to be shed on them. Women need to know they deserve better and man need to wake up about those behavior. Sodon't blame the messenger and if youtake offense to it you are probably dont have your shit together. Because obvisiouly they arent talking tothe good men out there.
Anonymous's picture

bravo Natasha, i applaud your

bravo Natasha, i applaud your comment in reply to the man that wrote in complaining about the perception of black men in the media. There is a clear difference between the way black women and other races are treated, my friends and i were talking about this, way before i even heard about this movie, we are seen as the bottom of the totem pole, shown no ounce of respect, and yet expected to sit down and take this all in silence. black men talk about how black women have children from many different men and are looking for baby daddies, but lets not forget who got them pregnant in the first place, and if the black female wasnt so insecure about herself, she wouldnt be opening her legs up and down having children with various different men. most black women do this because they assume that this is the only way they can keep their men.. in other words, keeping a piece of the man. It is the black males that make them so insecure, constantly comparing them to white, asian and latino women... why wouldnt they be inseure? dont black women deserve respect the same way other races are given respect? and why do black men get mad when movies like these come out portraying them in their true colours? are they not the same ones that make videos degrading black women as sexual objects? you open your mouths and incriminate yourselves, and when it get to much for you all to handle you back out. i mean as a black man even if you dont want to be with a woman, that you knocked up, you should tell her. Dont keep her in the back burner waiting for you anytime your lonely and need a quick screw, have the decency to hurt feelings in advance before u completely break her spirit...remember some of you may have daughter, or sisters, but u definitely have mothers, so keep that in mind the next time you treat black women with such disrespect. just a thought thank you
Anonymous's picture

Wow. Reading these comments

Wow. Reading these comments one would think that if it werent for Black Men the sisters would be loved by all. Well here is a dose of how America as a whole defines you...go to youtube and type "BLACK Girl" in the search query. Oh and by the way it might make you feel better to know that a black man had nothing to do with that.
kingsef's picture

Natasha very well put and

Natasha very well put and said!!!
Anonymous's picture

I dont feel bashed at all as

I dont feel bashed at all as a black man. Because I know there are plenty of good (black) men in the world but there are just as amny bad black men. People have to realize that this is adaptaion of something written many many years ago.The world isn't perfect and because of that reason the imperfections will always shine brighter than the perfections. Its sad but true. I think it was a great movie I encourage everyone to see it for many different reasons. All the men who played those roles knew exactly what they were signing up for obviously they felt a need to portary those roles and give those characters life not to bash black men but to open the world's eyes to the evils of the world. So all you nay sayers are missing the point.
TheKING's picture

Well said black brotha, well

Well said black brotha, well said. There is clearly a larger message to this movie than just (black) man bashing. The only reason this movie should offend any brotha is if that (black) man was personally portrayed, if you get my drift.
nolaslyfox's picture

I wouldn't say I feel bashed,

I wouldn't say I feel bashed, but what is with this theme of black women vs black men on VV and movies lately. First the BS "Black woman cant find decent men" specials, and now this movie and N-secure. These movies always portray blacks as their own worst enemies (esp. men as women's worst), as chaotic and as the root problem of all the communities' troubles. As opposed to living in a society hinged on racial issues. I honestly haven't seen the film, and I dont plan to but it comes across as a bunch of women saying "My husband cheated on me, he lied...but worst of all im black..........wwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh"
kd's picture

This movie moved me. I am

This movie moved me. I am going to get the playbook, and I hope one day to see the play. Sadly these things do occur in the real lives of black women, and the root of these issues need to be addressed. Instead of negating these experiences and stories by way of critique of Tyler Perry's portrayal of the black man, for example, we need to do better. This film was very personal to me.
miss. tiandez jones's picture

Editor of Site: I haven't

Editor of Site: I haven't seen the movie so I won't comment on what may have happened or how it should be interpreted. However, I did read your comments after the article. At the end of the first paragraph you implied that it is ignorant to generalize a group of people, yet in the very next paragraph you begin the generalize the black woman. I don't think that the black woman is treated any worse than black males, differently, but not worse. There is a tremendous amount more that black men should do to treat black women better and there is also a lot more that black women could do to treat their men better. Both of our houses need cleaning, it should not be exploited in the media however. That's all I'm saying.
Anonymous's picture

Now you're doing the right

Now you're doing the right things Tyler! You know what kind of movie you have to make in order to get the critical acclaim that you seek so badly for your extremely generically produced movies. This is no different, however, you know the themes we like when it comes to your kind. Exhibit A & B - "Monster's Ball" & "Training Day". Your Oscar will be in the mail. By any means necessary huh Tyler. Well, you keep on doing what you do...'Brother'. LOL...just thought I'd throw that in there to show we 'feel you' here at the Oscar Committee. Take care ManTan! SHOWTIME!!!
Oscar Committee's picture

Sigh....SMH...Everyone with a

Sigh....SMH...Everyone with a negative comment that has NOT read the original works or seen the original play by Ntozake Shange, should do themselves a favor.... go to Amazon, make the purchase, read the book and then see the film again. TP did an amazing job adapting this play (which is originally a book of poems) into a big screen production. To create a plot and keep the original poems intact, he had to portray the men as the characters that warranted the monologues of these ladies. Furthermore, for all those that are disappointed that this is yet another sad, depressing movie...the original works was titled " For Colored Girls Who Have Considered SUICIDE When the Rainbow is Enuf" . When the word SUICIDE is in the title, I think its unrealistic to expect the movie to be filled with cotton candy and carousels. I can't help but wonder if the comments would be different if we took the same movie but inserted Spike Lee, Anthony Fuqua or John Singleton as the director. Folks, please remove your Madea glasses and hatred and give this film the credit it deserves.
Nee's picture

It's crazy how some black men

It's crazy how some black men don't think these stories are true when I know some women who've been in the shoes of the characters of that movie. The movie was heavy but accurate. This guy needs to get over himself.
Tagirl27's picture

o please how many black man

o please how many black man will go up and arms and downgrade his own black sistas saying that we are the worst we have bad attitudes we don't know how to listen we are to stubborn and on and on and on, this movie was about the uplifting of a womens spirit not to bash men but to tell women that they are worth something and that they should have pride and not just settle for any old bullshit and yes there was a positive black male character in the movie so this washington post writer is probably just mad because he knows that he has some issues of his own that he needs to deal with
bxcutie4life's picture

I hate to say it but if black

I hate to say it but if black men dont want to be seen in a negative way then they need to step up to the plate and start acting like real men. The Bible says the man is the King of the house but if he's not acting like it then no one can be surprised when he gets ridiculed for his actions. I am not even going to lie; the majority of the brothas in San Diego where I am act like big babies. They dont work and have no desire to work and thats horrible; by no means is that acting like a king. If the black man could get himself together and start acting the way a man should then I KNOW MANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT EXIST IN OUR RACE WOULD HALT. Sometimes I wonder if its even worth waisting our time on trying to rectify the black man's behavior, especially when so many of them (in San Diego at least 50% of them and I kid you not ) are dating other races. At this point I believe we just need to not worry about the black man and keep taking care of ourselves -the point of the movie. In my opinion why chase men who have no respect for us. Honestly, if we want to have love its probably better to find it in other race men and let the brothas keep it pushen- neeext...
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